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Democritus · Post by **Democritus** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:42 am

Astor Piazolla or Terry Riley are easily on Mozart level, if not better.

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:42 am

Martin E wrote:
stefancrs wrote: Loads of good music from the 70's, yes. Never said there wasn't. I said I think all the pop music from the 70's is shite, which I don't think about for instance the 60's, 80's and 90's.
When I say good music I of course mean pop music.90's good pop music? We better agree to disagree.

No worries

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:44 am

stefancrs wrote:Keep in mind also that usually, really huge talents aren't recognized while they're active performers. Probably due to lack of perspective. But I'd still rate quite a lot of artists / bands as more talented than for instance Mozart, even if the rest of the world won't agree with me

indeed!

(Beethoven is a different thing though - on the other hand: Beethoven was perfectionist and Mozart always was in need of money so who knows what Mozart could have achieved without his addiction?

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jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:47 am

Sascha Franck wrote: These days they'd probably be involved in host betatests

hehe...

Josmoker · Post by **Josmoker** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:49 am

I wrote:No really, I think this discussion is useless really. Talent is something you cannot measure, it's not even defined. So you can argue and argue and argue. To me Luke Vibert and Amon Tobin are both musical geniuses, certainly as much as Mozart.

edoosx wrote:someone can say that luke vibert is a genius, i can say he isn't, so who's right? how to demonstrate this?

Please re-read what I wrote - it was exactly the same thing you wrote. Just for the record, though, I am right of course - Luke Vibert is a genius (just look at him for christ's sake!)!

Gridlocked · Post by **Gridlocked** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:54 am

Damon Alburn is a modern day genius...

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:01 am

Democritus wrote:Astor Piazolla or Terry Riley are easily on Mozart level, if not better.

Hear! Hear! I understand that Riley measures 1.23 on the Mozart scale and Piazzolla a whopping 1.74 (making him the greatest since Victor Silvester!)

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:02 am

dick wrote:I have pondered this for a long time about 5 mins but it seems to me that there is an inverse relationship between talent and technology.

John Cale acknowledges that: getting all MIDI'd up decreased the time he spent playing an actual instrument, so even his keyboard skills deteriorated.

OTOH, Mozart had an easy job: he only had to write down note pitch, position and length instead of 1000+ synth parameters, and he never had to worry about mixing and mastering.

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:09 am

cptgone wrote:OTOH, Mozart had an easy job: he only had to write down note pitch, position and length instead of 1000+ synth parameters, and he never had to worry about mixing and mastering.

stevieb19 · Post by **stevieb19** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:13 am

Changing the tack slightly.

If Mozart was making music today what genre do you believe he would be making.

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:14 am

stevieb19 wrote:Changing the tack slightly.

If Mozart was making music today what genre do you believe he would be making.

Soundtracks. It's where the dosh is if you know your shit.

stevieb19 · Post by **stevieb19** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:17 am

nuffink wrote:
stevieb19 wrote:Changing the tack slightly.

If Mozart was making music today what genre do you believe he would be making.
Soundtracks. It's where the dosh is if you know your shit.

That would give Mr Zimmer a run for his money methinks

stevieb19 · Post by **stevieb19** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:20 am

Personally I think he was pretty avantgarde for his time so maybe something leftfield, IDM or maybe Ambient Drum & Bass

origami · Post by **origami** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:21 am

No problem for me, since I don't like Mozart or Beethoven but I love Legendary Pink Dots or Einsturzende Neubauten.

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:23 am

music for games, indeed.

Were the good old days better