Kjaerhus MPL-1 Master Limiter is NOW AVAILABLE!
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- KVRAF
- 8099 posts since 12 Dec, 2003 from Canada
++beej wrote:Definitely interested in the Mac AU version of this...
I thought they were coming out concurrently.
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- KVRist
- 478 posts since 14 Jan, 2003 from Denmark
You will be allowed to use it on Mac and PC with no additional payment. We might make a small cross grade fee once Mac is released but it will be free for orders until then.friteuse wrote:when I purchase it today for PC, how will your crossplatform policy be? May I get the Mac version when it's released for free then or have I to buy it again?
Torben
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- KVRian
- 1359 posts since 5 Mar, 2005
To me it is better then precision, I no longer have precision to test side by side so i'm judging from memory.But this mpl is very impressive indeed.From the start i was not an easy person to impress enough to buy another limiter because like i said before i have quite a few limiters already,but i could tell within 5 seconds of demoing mpl-1 that its a must have, now i'm looking for my credit card (if i go deeply in debt atleast it will be with a smileCANE CREEK wrote:I use the universal audio precision limiter on all my projects would the MPL-1 Mastering Precision Limiter be as good or even better ?
If it is as good or better i'd like to puchase it as this would free up my UAD-1 to make room for other plugins.
- KVRAF
- 11388 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Have been demoing the MPL-1 with a lot of interest today. The first intial impression (which obviously is the most important) is "wow! This thing is very nice sounding!". There is very little doubt about the sound quality of this limiter. It's stereo linking thing is awesome and works very musically, leaving a sense of space even when pushed quite hard (some limiters sacrifice this space for loudness).
For mixing/mastering newbies this limiter goes straight to the top of my recommendations list as it's simply very hard to make this thing sound bad. However, on the downside, being a sort of "safe" limiter, it also is not able to go as loud on sparse, transient heavy material (like some of todays pop-music) as some of the competition.
Note, that I'm still learning to use MPL-1 so I might find out a way to abuse some more volume from this thing (not that louder equals better but anybody who has been dealing with record labels and executive producers and A&R people know how much value is put into this.. unfortunately).
As a creative, musical compressor it works very well indeed! I threw it on the drumbus of a rock song and it worked very nicely, giving just the right amount of density and pumping. This makes the limiter very good value for money as it can do all kinds of tasks well. I've yet to try it on vocals (don't laugh! It just might work!) but I suspect that this thing might be extremely good at controlling heavy dynamics of an unexperienced performer!
All in all it's what I expected in the first place. A very good limiter with exceptional sound quality. Now, how's that for a pre-concieved negative bias, eh?
Cheers!
bManic
For mixing/mastering newbies this limiter goes straight to the top of my recommendations list as it's simply very hard to make this thing sound bad. However, on the downside, being a sort of "safe" limiter, it also is not able to go as loud on sparse, transient heavy material (like some of todays pop-music) as some of the competition.
Note, that I'm still learning to use MPL-1 so I might find out a way to abuse some more volume from this thing (not that louder equals better but anybody who has been dealing with record labels and executive producers and A&R people know how much value is put into this.. unfortunately).
As a creative, musical compressor it works very well indeed! I threw it on the drumbus of a rock song and it worked very nicely, giving just the right amount of density and pumping. This makes the limiter very good value for money as it can do all kinds of tasks well. I've yet to try it on vocals (don't laugh! It just might work!) but I suspect that this thing might be extremely good at controlling heavy dynamics of an unexperienced performer!
All in all it's what I expected in the first place. A very good limiter with exceptional sound quality. Now, how's that for a pre-concieved negative bias, eh?
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
- KVRAF
- 11388 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
MPL-1 actually reminds me of the precision limiter quite a lot. Both of them are "safe" limiters that are hard to get to sound bad. On the downside, like I said earlier, both of these do not go as "loud" as some of the more agressive ones. They simply do not allow it.CANE CREEK wrote:I use the universal audio precision limiter on all my projects would the MPL-1 Mastering Precision Limiter be as good or even better ?
If it is as good or better i'd like to puchase it as this would free up my UAD-1 to make room for other plugins.
Personally I think MPL-1 is much better value for your money than the precision limiter but this is of course totally IMHO!
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
That's a *bad* thing?bmanic wrote:However, on the downside, being a sort of "safe" limiter, it also is not able to go as loud on sparse, transient heavy material (like some of todays pop-music) as some of the competition.
BTW The gui is really nice on this - I really like your design styles on your recent products - good looking but tasteful, inspires confidence without being too flashy. Functional but sexy. Just how it should be - nice work

(Now how do you pronounce 'Kjaerhus' again..?
- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
completely OT, but that color scheme reminds me of a C64 game 'Airborne Ranger'... not an entirely bad association. 
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- KVRian
- 1359 posts since 5 Mar, 2005
That name use to always be hard for me to remember (spelling wise) and i still may not be pronouncing it correctly.Thats the only downside to buying the plugin, because if i recommend it i'll for ever be writing out the web address rather then speaking it.beej wrote:
(Now how do you pronounce 'Kjaerhus' again..?)
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- KVRist
- 125 posts since 7 Jan, 2004 from London, UK
Sorry - what do you mean by "They simply do not allow it?"bmanic wrote: On the downside, like I said earlier, both of these do not go as "loud" as some of the more agressive ones. They simply do not allow it.![]()
Cheers
Len
- KVRAF
- 11388 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Yes, for the tweakers I think this is a limitation. I don't like to be limited by my tools. However, if this would be the case with all limiters (especially L1 that started this whole thing!) then maybe not all music would be crushed to death?beej wrote:That's a *bad* thing?bmanic wrote:However, on the downside, being a sort of "safe" limiter, it also is not able to go as loud on sparse, transient heavy material (like some of todays pop-music) as some of the competition.![]()
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 15 Mar, 2005
as far as i can tell this limiter really is not for transient heavy material, all ive got with 4-6db limiting is a mush. if i bring the release up it starts pumping really soon, i bring it down then everything goes mushy. i find elephant performs *much* better here, with a more transparent pumping/distortion balance, and can also handle the soft material, which im yet to try mlp-1 on. im sure it excells there though.
but i really think limiters need to come with 'a transparent for... ' thing, or handle everything.
but i really think limiters need to come with 'a transparent for... ' thing, or handle everything.
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- KVRAF
- 11388 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Try it yourself. Add extreme amounts of limiting and see where they stop. For instance, what happens with Precision limiter is that the signal starts pumping a lot and all transients are pushed into the background (drums become more "far away") and the RMS level of the whole signal goes up. Whereas some limiters that allow clipping the signal simply chops of the tops of the transients and they keep on being very forward in the music but get much more added distortion. Like with everything this is a trade off. Distortion versus transient "forwardness".Len wrote:Sorry - what do you mean by "They simply do not allow it?"bmanic wrote: On the downside, like I said earlier, both of these do not go as "loud" as some of the more agressive ones. They simply do not allow it.![]()
Cheers
Len
Better than that I can not explain it. Just download all the demos of the various limiters and push them hard. Then you will see what I mean.
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
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- KVRist
- 125 posts since 7 Jan, 2004 from London, UK
Thanks bmanic - makes sense. I have elephant and am happy with it but will certainly be demoing this new beast.
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Now I hope they're going to update the website with this great new logo/look, and GET RID OF THE GUY PLAYING THE FREAKIN' KRAMER GUITAR!!!beej wrote:That's a *bad* thing?bmanic wrote:However, on the downside, being a sort of "safe" limiter, it also is not able to go as loud on sparse, transient heavy material (like some of todays pop-music) as some of the competition.
BTW The gui is really nice on this - I really like your design styles on your recent products - good looking but tasteful, inspires confidence without being too flashy. Functional but sexy. Just how it should be - nice work
(Now how do you pronounce 'Kjaerhus' again..?)
Oh, this compressor sounds amazing; probably the best I've heard, but I'm no expert.

