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jamester · Post by **jamester** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:50 am

I'm trying the demo out again, and am really impressed. I remember thinking it was cool before, but for whatever reason passed it by.

Anyways, one thing I would *love* to see is the ability to drag-n-drop wav hits from the host's browser directly into an SP. While I greatly appreciate being able to audition from Drumular's explorer, it's still just one more window coming and going. Dragging from the host cuts out the middleman, IMO.

Either way, I'm committing and ponying up this time! Would love to check out some skins...

quincy · Post by **quincy** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:43 am

I tried drumualr a while back and thought it was great, but i tried it recently with the latest update to Live 6 and it kept crashing Live. It may well be an issue on Abletons end (ooer mrs) but still, no good to me if it crashes!!

Think there is supposed to be an update coming soon, but i can't remember where i read that.

CinningBao · Post by **CinningBao** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:53 am

Absolutely - earlier in this thread Roy from RedShift states that a Drumular2 is in the works and even mentioned a couple of features - more pads per kit, more layers per pad..

I'm really hoping they don't go the same way as SonicBytes - if Roy could give us a little bit of confidence by giving us a little update (no posts since his last in this thread from Feb01)

Hello Roy? How's Drumular 2 coming along?

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:09 am

Yeah, Drumular is great. I hope it's not "finished" and finished

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mrdr · Post by **mrdr** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:34 am

Jamester, compare output of oneshot module to SP module with fastest 'amp' attack. With the same sample of course.

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:42 pm

i once made a list of what has to be added into drumular in another drumular thread, here's the link, if someone is interrested:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 78#2362678

EDIT:
stupid me, posted this inot the wrong drumular thread, it's already here, a few sites ago ...

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:49 pm

brok landers wrote:i once made a list of what has to be added into drumular in another drumular thread, here's the link, if someone is interrested:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 78#2362678

Good stuff Brok, but I think you meant to say "in this thread, one page back"!

I don't get why I can drag a sample into Drumular in One Shot mode, but not SP mode. Makes no sense to me.

MRDR: I'll try that, but what am I looking for? I'm not sure I understand...

mrdr · Post by **mrdr** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:13 pm

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:03 pm

MRDR
I'm checking this out right now; indeed, I can tell just by listening, the one shot is always louder!

Huh...I wouldn't mind so much, as OneShot mode allows drag-n-drop from the host's explorer onto the Layers. However, there aren't any real controls for this mode- can't reverse, adjust start/stop times etc... Also, why doesn't SP mode get a compressor?

Great, and I just paid for it a few hours ago. Now I'm feeling like I just wasted even more money on drum solutions I won't use. Story of my life! :-/

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:30 pm

have you made sure that the amp env's attack is completely closed by default? also turn off the filter, or raise the cutoff to the max, also check the attack of the filter env/ set the ammount to 0 ...
is it still the same way then?
i can't test here atm ... pls lemme know ...

mrdr · Post by **mrdr** » Thu May 03, 2007 12:37 am

it was default state of SP module with all attacks at their minimum value 1.0ms. I reported that to Roy a few months ago but he gave no reply.

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Thu May 03, 2007 1:36 am

Yes, the default/minimum value for these parameters is 1.0ms.

I'm going to do a bunch of head-to-head comparisons with my samples; if the slight lack of attack isn't too bad, I'll let it slide. If it is noticeable and significant to me, then I just wasted $40.

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:39 am

jamester wrote:Yes, the default/minimum value for these parameters is 1.0ms.

i can't check here, but, even though it might be default 1ms, is that the smallest value? can't you drag it do be even smaller? just an idea ...
if one cannot make it smaller, there's a work around:
you can give the amp env a very small decay (so that it might fit to the "blend-in), and lower the sustain. then rise the pad-level up again ...
this should work, though it's a bit of a pita ...

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:55 am

brok landers wrote:...even though it might be default 1ms, is that the smallest value? can't you drag it do be even smaller? just an idea ...

No, it's the smallest. That's why I put the word "minimum" after "default". The smallest possible value is the default value, 1.0ms.

I'll look into that work around, but yeah that's way too PITA for me to be doing that every time I load a sample! :-0

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Thu May 03, 2007 5:13 am

Well, I wasted forty bucks!

Not only could I hear the difference within Drumular itself, but I also put it head-to-head with a "homemade" drum sampler I made in Reaper, using Reaper's built-in sampler. Drumular's SP mode simply lacks volume, fullness and punch comparatively.

It's not the money so much as the disapointment. Drumular will have to go on the back burner until the update comes out (hopefully). The synthesis stuff is still cool, but I use samples mostly.

Drumular a done product?