RMV 5.0 bug reports

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Hi,

the problem I mentioned above (some RM V/LCC problem) could be "solved" by downloading the LCC from Syncrosoft's homepage and reinstalling it. Strange, but everything works fine now.

:)

Cheers, Volker

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1/ Search function in kit browser : If I load a kit, put "TB" in the user1 field, and resave the kit .. do this to a few kits .. then use the search field "user 1" I get no results. However if I search using the "Credits" field, I find them.(edit .. sorry I got that wrong .. as above, search in user1 doesn't find user1 strings .. but if I put TB in the "Credits" field, then it is found when I search in the User1 field.)

2/ Bit hard to explain this .. start with empty kit. use a midi keyboard to switch between pads. Load a sample into each pad and do a few pads this way.. but avoid putting anything onto the pad triggered by the C3 key. Now and then while doing this, try playing the C3 key on the keyboard. Every now and then a sound will be heard though nothing is assigned to that pad. Saving and re-loading the kit cures it. Only happens when using a midi KB .. works as expected if you click the pads to select them.

3/ Intermittant trouble with the "Pads" button when loading samples. It just refuses to work sometimes ??

4/ Host follow has no effect (in Cubase 4) when host starts at bar One. (everytime you Stop,, goto bar one,, start,, the internal midi triggering jsut carries on from where it last left off..)

5/ Once in a while I get asked for a missing Loop in some "Simsalabim" folder on drive E. My samples are all stored on drive G .. and RMV knows it. This caused a lot of trouble the first time I installed it (many recurring messages). The path something like "E:\Simsalabim\RMV Drum Addintion\..." whereas my samples are all in "G:\RMV Drum Addiction etc.."
Now when RMV asks if I want to search for the missing sample .. if I say NO the message keeps coming up. If I say Yes the file browser opens, but all the RMV folders look empty (file extension filter.. only samples is selectable.. no files show up .. have to cancel .. back to error messages).
Weirdly though, I don't think this is happening on my Vista Laptop, only on my XP Daw !! One difference may be that I didn't install the dongle drivers on my daw (USB key licence was downloaded already on laptop).

6/ Am I right in thinking that the Key Numbers per sample in a pad has been dropped ?? Can't find it on the GUI. Actually I prefer it like that I think .. but some of the kits contain pads that are triggering many different sounds at once, as it seems they were designed on RVIV, which allowed for key mapping per pad. See Kit "LeveeKit" pad 11 for example. The manual still says key mapping is there, but I can't find it (and, as I said, sort of prefer it when the trigger lable on each pad is showing the correct key, even for samples.)

7/ Similarly, there used to be a Key Velocity to volume button above the mod matrix on the RMIV .. that was very useful but I cant find it on the RMV.

8/ The manual makes it sound like the number of outputs can be changed .. but I can't find how.

9/ Having imported some kits from RMIV, when copy/pasting pads, having renamed them,sometimes the name of the pad reverts to what it was called on the RMIV instaed.

Sorry for the long winded descriptions .. bit tired & only chance I got.
Great fun this thing though ..

Oh yeah .. last thing .. why the 32 note poly limit ?? When getting busy with latin percussion & a rock kit, my Crashes keep cutting off early. Cpu is pretty low when running all 32 notes .. could this be increased ?? If not, could we have an extra selection in the polyphony drop-down called "I'm Important .. don't chop me off unless you absolutely have to.." or something similar !!?

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One more quickie..
When using a loop in RMV, once the midi is dragged to my host (Cubase4), and once I have turned OFF the "H" switch to stop the double-triggering, if I then save the project, and reload the project, the "H" button has turned itself back on (only tested in Loop 1, in Cubase 4)...(therefor the project sounds different when it is reloaded, to how it sounded when it was saved !!)

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Confirmed. The H button is on after reloading the project in energy XT2 too.

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There seems to be something essentially wrong with group editing of Outputs.

Im using Cubase4 (Latest Version 4.5.2) in WinXP.
I start a new instance of RMV with the Brad Kit1.
Now i choose Group 1 for the first two Pad, Kick1 and Kick2.
Kick2 is now in E(dit) mode.
Right-Click on S01 and choose S02 with another Right-Click.
Kick1 won't change the Output.
Unload RMV, open another instance, tried the same..
Now it worked, the Display in Kick1 updated to S02, but the Output when playing Pad 'Kick1' is still sent to S01 ?!
This happens in Loop-Slices too..

So the Display of the Pad is updated sometimes, but the 'real' Output is still the Output it was set to before. The Output can only be changed by left-clicking and changing every Output manually...

jojo

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Argh, Tony tried to kill me ;-)
TonyBy wrote:1/ Search function in kit browser
Confirmed
2/ Bit hard to explain this ..
Got it; we just fixed somethingt that sounds very similar, so I guess we might have erased this problem too, please let me know if it happens for you still in version 5.0.1
3/ Intermittant trouble with the "Pads" button when loading samples. It just refuses to work sometimes ??
Hmm, seesm ok here; if you can give me a step by step guide I'm happy to dig into it again
4/ Host follow has no effect (in Cubase 4)
I remember it was ok in Live, I will test in Cubase 4 soon
5/ Once in a while I get asked for a missing Loop in some "Simsalabim" folder on drive E.
A missing Loop ? Sure ? Or you mean a missing sample ...? When does this happen ?
6/ Am I right in thinking that the Key Numbers per sample in a pad has been dropped ??
Yes, it just makes the thing really complicate in some aspects (e.g. a couple of features would not have been possible). Also I think its easier to keep track of things. Btw, when you load a RMIV kit the individual sanmplkes get split on multiple pads in RMV then.
7/ Similarly, there used to be a Key Velocity to volume button
Ok, I will add it again just for you Tony ...really.
8/ The manual makes it sound like the number of outputs can be changed ..
Manual bug, we delivered the 8/8 version first but will release different flavours with 5.0.1 as well.
Having imported some kits from RMIV, when copy/pasting pads, having renamed them,sometimes the name of the pad reverts to what it was called on the RMIV instaed.
Ok, I neeed to check this too
why the 32 note poly limit
To save ressources, usually the RMV does switch off a sounding note only if all 32 notes are used up, which to me happened only in unrealistinc testing situations. You really manage to play 32 sounds without getting some unuseable noise ?

phew ;-)
Peter

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TonyBy wrote: 4/ Host follow has no effect (in Cubase 4) when host starts at bar One. (everytime you Stop,, goto bar one,, start,, the internal midi triggering jsut carries on from where it last left off..)
Confirmed, its indeed not working as it should in Cubase, we'll find it and fix it with version 5.0.1 ', if there is not a bug in Cubase itself (lets hope).

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:)
You're a star !!
Will try to repro my more vague reports soon.
Sorry for the assasination attempt !!

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quadjojo wrote:There seems to be something essentially wrong with group editing of Outputs.
Thank you jojo, consider it fixed in version 5.0.1

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Peter from LinPlug wrote:
quadjojo wrote:There seems to be something essentially wrong with group editing of Outputs.
Thank you jojo, consider it fixed in version 5.0.1
yay ;) any plans on a release date of 5.0.1 ?

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Sure, but it makes no sense to communicate them exactly, lets say "soon" ;-)

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Hi, Peter.
RMV works great here!
However there are a couple of annoying bugs:
the search in kits doesn't work. At least the most important parameter to me: style.
2) everytime I use the eq, RMV stops working after few adjustments (especially of the High Shelf band) and I have to close cubase.

cubase4
vista
q6600

thanks.

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Another thing:
the slice display always shows "O" on slices. Shouldn't it show K S H?
thanks.

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Its a detection, if sounds are too complex it cant exactly say if its a Kick, Snare, Hat, so its a Other then

The EQ problem will be fixed in 5.0.1. I check the style issue

Thank you !

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In FLStudio 8 the pad names are not sent to the piano roll like RM IV did.

I can't play RM V with my MIDI keyboard like in RM IV. It only plays via MIDI Out channel 10 and same port #. Even MIDI channel 10 on my keyboard doesn't work. Clicking with the mouse on the piano roll or ALT+Right click is ok.

Automation via "Browse parameters" or "Last tweak parameter" doesn't work. So RMV isn't automatable.

... but RMV sounds realy great :-)

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