What is the Point of Your Music?
- KVRAF
- 4682 posts since 6 Jan, 2003
I'm not really sure what the point of my music is. At times I have written to express/release particular feelings, sometimes I write because I think it could be a good challenge to try to capture a particular idea in musical form, but often I do not have anything that specific in mind. In those cases I just let it flow with no particular direction in mind and just see where it leads me.
I guess I write simply because I feel the desire to do so, I enjoy the process, and I enjoy the results. There may or may not be a reason behind the desire, but ultimately there doesn't need to be more of a reason that simply having the desire to do so. Music is definitely part of me, part of my identity, and is certainly a means of self expression. But often I don't have the goal in mind of "I'm writting now to express this part of me or that feeling."
So from the poll options I suppose I'll have to vote for "expression of itself" even though other options can be equally valid for me at times.
I guess I write simply because I feel the desire to do so, I enjoy the process, and I enjoy the results. There may or may not be a reason behind the desire, but ultimately there doesn't need to be more of a reason that simply having the desire to do so. Music is definitely part of me, part of my identity, and is certainly a means of self expression. But often I don't have the goal in mind of "I'm writting now to express this part of me or that feeling."
So from the poll options I suppose I'll have to vote for "expression of itself" even though other options can be equally valid for me at times.
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- KVRAF
- 1669 posts since 4 Nov, 2007
nothing really, i wouldnt even call it music, since im not a musician.
musicians make music, innit
i make sounds with some sort of rythmic pattern.
musicians make music, innit
i make sounds with some sort of rythmic pattern.
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- KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
wow, no offense but your whole theory is shot at the end. Are you to tell me that you can see all of the collective understandings of the universe? As we are all individuals and we all have individual tastes you theory would make more sense without stating things like it is the difference between a song that rox and one that sux.loose snare wrote:No it's not.Hink wrote:what's the point of life? The question is impossible to answer.....
The universe is a big mysteries thing, although with nothing else to compare it to all you can really say is that the universe is.
Life is defined by awareness - all living things from germs to trees to humans to horses are aware in their own way and of their own corner of the universe. All living things are naturally a part of the universe as a whole, therefore the point/ meaning of life is clearly the universe providing itself with the means to become aware of itself.
We are simply an expression of the universe probing the mysteries of itself, imagining itself to itself by itself. Just like all the cells in your body contribute to you being able to feel that you exist. Our notion of being individuals is just the way in which we humans have molded our particular portion of awareness - other creatures focus less on individuality and more on other things. Humans feeling very individual like ask the question 'why am I here, what's it all about?' whereas other creatures with less sense of individuality/ separateness may feel the answer more intuitively and so never even conceive of asking the question in the first place.
The reason I focus on this is that in my opinion all worthwhile music contributes to the collective understanding of the universe as a whole, no matter what genre. Good music observes and reflects back (a tiny part of) the universe in some specialized, unique way. That is what I try and do. It is not accurate (because accuracy is more of a concept of science) but it is honest and truthful. Your can just tell without thinking the music that does this and the music which does not, it is (put very simply) the difference between a tune that rocks and one that sucks.
When you paint a wall a certain color we are indeed seeing what color of the spectrum of light is being reflected. Just because one wall reflects only one color of the spectrum does not mean the others are not there. So each individual could indeed reflect another part of the spectrum of the understandings of the universe that you cannot see.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 37396 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
Other people's music making has a point?
Hmmm, not killing myself has always been a factor, but I still wouldn't say that most of my music is that expressive. The music that I made that I would consider expressive sounds more like horrible noise.
Another part of it is making niches of music that I find are missing amongst other artists. I.E., I would like to listen to a song like this, but it doesn't exist that I've heard of, so I'm going to make it.
Pure self-indulgence is another one, teamed with my fetishism of synthesis and effects processing. I know that music making doesn't require heaps of FM synthesis, multi-band and multi-dynamic processing, parallel processing all over the place, everything side-chained to each other, et cetera, but I'm a self indulgent person when it comes to music, and I like what results can stem from saying f**k it and going all out.
Hmmm, not killing myself has always been a factor, but I still wouldn't say that most of my music is that expressive. The music that I made that I would consider expressive sounds more like horrible noise.
Another part of it is making niches of music that I find are missing amongst other artists. I.E., I would like to listen to a song like this, but it doesn't exist that I've heard of, so I'm going to make it.
Pure self-indulgence is another one, teamed with my fetishism of synthesis and effects processing. I know that music making doesn't require heaps of FM synthesis, multi-band and multi-dynamic processing, parallel processing all over the place, everything side-chained to each other, et cetera, but I'm a self indulgent person when it comes to music, and I like what results can stem from saying f**k it and going all out.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 18 Oct, 2004
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1084 posts since 12 Sep, 2008 from Your basement
Here's a mean sounding question... those of you who are doing music to express one's inner selves, why would you think anyone would care about your inner self?
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 22 Oct, 2008
definitely the idea of "I'm making this song that I really want to hear that doesn't exist (or if it does, I haven't found it)." plus
and possibly something that goes well with them.bugland wrote:I guess, it's partly a substitute for drugs.
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- KVRist
- 226 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
I can't, but the universe can (because the universe is). I was trying to tie up 'the meaning of life' with 'what's the point of my music'. Yes all sound or all music can be said to be reflecting back an equally valid reflection of (different aspects of) the universe ... just as you could say the awareness of someone who comes home grabs some beers and watches TV all evening is equally as valid as someone who is always out learning new things, traveling, having new experiences, perhaps meditating or at least reflecting on her/his life from time to time...... but I don't think this is the case - some people enhance their awareness and spread that awareness about (together with the mood of wanting to explore life's mysteries) wherever the go and reflect it back into infinity whereas other people hardly enhance their awareness at all getting stuck in their tiny insular lives of habits and routines and worries and so on, or maybe ego and wealth, social status, power, control.Hink wrote:wow, no offense but your whole theory is shot at the end. Are you to tell me that you can see all of the collective understandings of the universe? ...../....loose snare wrote:No it's not.Hink wrote:what's the point of life? The question is impossible to answer.....
The universe is a big mysteries thing, although with nothing else to compare it to all you can really say is that the universe is.
Life is defined by awareness - all living things from germs to trees to humans to horses are aware in their own way and of their own corner of the universe. All living things are naturally a part of the universe as a whole, therefore the point/ meaning of life is clearly the universe providing itself with the means to become aware of itself.
We are simply an expression of the universe probing the mysteries of itself, imagining itself to itself by itself. Just like all the cells in your body contribute to you being able to feel that you exist. Our notion of being individuals is just the way in which we humans have molded our particular portion of awareness - other creatures focus less on individuality and more on other things. Humans feeling very individual like ask the question 'why am I here, what's it all about?' whereas other creatures with less sense of individuality/ separateness may feel the answer more intuitively and so never even conceive of asking the question in the first place.
The reason I focus on this is that in my opinion all worthwhile music contributes to the collective understanding of the universe as a whole, no matter what genre. Good music observes and reflects back (a tiny part of) the universe in some specialized, unique way. That is what I try and do. It is not accurate (because accuracy is more of a concept of science) but it is honest and truthful. Your can just tell without thinking the music that does this and the music which does not, it is (put very simply) the difference between a tune that rocks and one that sucks.
I see that as applicable to music too. Some music has if not a great amount of the composer's experience running through it then the feeling of a composer hungry to explore, it suggests there is more out there ...... other music seems to exist in its own sealed container lined with mirrors that only reflect inwards, it suggests there is little more out there than the song's own small agenda or inventory of ideas and references.
It's the difference between uplifting, awesome, powerful, beautiful .... and oppressive, cynical, meagre, wretched..... and has nothing to do with style, genre, instrumentation, production, or specific subject matter if the music has it etc
The point of my music (and my life) is to be the former. Why even bother otherwise!
There are too many groups, there are too many musicians - M.E.S.
- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
My music isn't pointy, it has smooth edges like a ham or an envelope.
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
Because they like it.Ogg Vorbis wrote:Here's a mean sounding question... those of you who are doing music to express one's inner selves, why would you think anyone would care about your inner self?
