Best brick wall limiter VST MAC and PC?
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100
- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
The one i use most of the time is Elemental Audio Systems Finis, its available through RND,Inc. i think (they probably changed the name and GUI - i never bothered checking or upgrading it). I am not sure if its the most transparent of limiters out their but i prefer it over the Waves L3 as a wideband limiter then the L3 makes up the other part when i need a multi-band limiter.
Voxengo's Elephant 3 looks and sounds very good so i think if i were buying a limiter today i would probably go for that and...McDSP's ML4000 is top notch and i really think that is as good as it gets, the only reason i do not use that limiter is because its no dice unless im using Pro Tools (which i do anyway) but i also use other applications so the VST & RTAS compatibility swayed it for me.
Though the ML4000 (hell the bloody whole Emerald Bundle lmao) is on my shortlist of stuff to buy; but there are things i need way before that in order of priority
Dean
Voxengo's Elephant 3 looks and sounds very good so i think if i were buying a limiter today i would probably go for that and...McDSP's ML4000 is top notch and i really think that is as good as it gets, the only reason i do not use that limiter is because its no dice unless im using Pro Tools (which i do anyway) but i also use other applications so the VST & RTAS compatibility swayed it for me.
Though the ML4000 (hell the bloody whole Emerald Bundle lmao) is on my shortlist of stuff to buy; but there are things i need way before that in order of priority
Dean
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- KVRAF
- 14739 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
I don't know what's wrong with Pocket Limiter, but to me it's working kinda wonky. The "knee" feature actually declares the attack time, the gain knob drives the signal into limiting (which is limited/locked to -0.1dB or -0.2dB) and I don't really know what the IQ setting does other than maybe affecting the knee.chicken muffin wrote:is tls max even better then pocket limiter? just downloaded tls, about to try it with the novakill synths. which as everybody knows can get quite loudCompyfox wrote:In case of the three I use regulary:
- TbT TLs Maximizer => even with a boost of 12dB, no overshots at -0.3dB
In terms of versatility the TLs Maximizer is better for a more broader usage (in my case even mastering), while the Pocket Limiter could be the thing for you if you only need a track limiter (which this thing seems to be aimed at).
I have to admit though that I barely use it but TLs, TubeLimiter (which colors to no end! But heck it's good for punchy stuff) and the SX Mono Button.
Just my 2c here.
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- KVRAF
- 1614 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
Pocket Limiter is nice on the Drumbuss with like 4-6dB of gainreduction
But i wouldn't use it on my Masterbuss, just because it has so limited controlls. I really like Elephant 3 (purchased it last month and still have to explore all controlls) or the Precision Limiter (UAD).
But i wouldn't use it on my Masterbuss, just because it has so limited controlls. I really like Elephant 3 (purchased it last month and still have to explore all controlls) or the Precision Limiter (UAD).
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- KVRAF
- 2545 posts since 22 Jun, 2004 from Paris. Well, not far.
Voxengo Elephant is very good. I haven't upgraded to v3 because v2 is so good already. Very transparent and efficient.
- KVRist
- 228 posts since 6 Jan, 2009 from UK
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- KVRian
- 936 posts since 29 May, 2002 from UK
Night and day difference for me, its really REALLY worth upgrading from v2 to v3 of Elephant. Way better imhodacaumodo wrote:Voxengo Elephant is very good. I haven't upgraded to v3 because v2 is so good already. Very transparent and efficient.
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- KVRian
- 1313 posts since 3 Aug, 2008 from where the streets have names
+1 on Precision Limiter...really transparent...haven't tried Elephant yetadl wrote:Pocket Limiter is nice on the Drumbuss with like 4-6dB of gainreduction![]()
But i wouldn't use it on my Masterbuss, just because it has so limited controlls. I really like Elephant 3 (purchased it last month and still have to explore all controlls) or the Precision Limiter (UAD).
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- KVRAF
- 1534 posts since 18 Jan, 2005
I noticed that it has several oversampling choices. 1x, 2x, 4x, and 8x. Does that make a difference in transparency?Arksun wrote:Night and day difference for me, its really REALLY worth upgrading from v2 to v3 of Elephant. Way better imhodacaumodo wrote:Voxengo Elephant is very good. I haven't upgraded to v3 because v2 is so good already. Very transparent and efficient.
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100
- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
...which is all well a good if you have a UAD card
(not that i am envious or anything
) > The more i hear the more i like and would like to buy a UAD2 card: Im constantly visiting the site and always reading nothing but good things about them and i really like the 3rd party partnerships they have going as well - are they classic symptoms of 'Working Without UAD Syndrone'?
I just can't afford one at the moment and i know i want the 2XQuad deal just to be greedy mwah ha ha ha
Dean

Yes i am a little
I just can't afford one at the moment and i know i want the 2XQuad deal just to be greedy mwah ha ha ha
Dean

Yes i am a little
- KVRian
- 936 posts since 29 May, 2002 from UK
A subtle difference, depends on the audio material too really. But when comparing them side by side limiting, ver3 can sound much more transparent and less coloured than ver2 (though ver3 can become rather coloured too if you want it to, thats the beauty of all the extra tweakable controls in the new version)Ubiety wrote:I noticed that it has several oversampling choices. 1x, 2x, 4x, and 8x. Does that make a difference in transparency?
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- KVRAF
- 1534 posts since 18 Jan, 2005
OK. Thanks!Arksun wrote:A subtle difference, depends on the audio material too really. But when comparing them side by side limiting, ver3 can sound much more transparent and less coloured than ver2 (though ver3 can become rather coloured too if you want it to, thats the beauty of all the extra tweakable controls in the new version)Ubiety wrote:I noticed that it has several oversampling choices. 1x, 2x, 4x, and 8x. Does that make a difference in transparency?
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- KVRian
- 1174 posts since 29 Apr, 2008
One thing I did notice with Tls maximizer is that it introduced a delay when playing a mix in realtime. My PC isn't terrible, but it's not blazing fast either. My guess is that this delay might not show up in a final render (I haven't used it enough to say for sure). The pocket limiter did not create this delay on my PC. So, as others have said, looks like pocket limiter is designed for individual tracks/instruments while Tls maximizer provides more control, higher quality for final mix rendering.is tls max even better then pocket limiter? just downloaded tls, about to try it with the novakill synths. which as everybody knows can get quite loud
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Blue Cat Audio Blue Cat Audio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=39981
- KVRAF
- 6336 posts since 8 Sep, 2004 from Paris (France)
If you are still looking for an alternative, you might want to check our Blue Cat's Protector brickwall limiter that has just been updated (and it's now available for the Mac as well).
See this thread for more info.
See this thread for more info.
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- KVRian
- 756 posts since 21 Sep, 2006 from Kranj, Slovenia
No votes for the free Buzzmaxi3? IMHO it gives much better results than W1
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