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In fact you still missing out Podium. Seriously, download it and give it a try.

Most of the programs you mention are just good in one thing. If you consider the limitations of Podium Free being that important to you, you also should realize how many of the programs you named are not having any of these features , like multi-core support or 64bit audio engine + they have clumsy workflow or more missing features.

Your thread is about finding a program to make music, but where is your pick? Actually you don't seem to like any of them and you don't seem to be into a real good recommendation like *cough... Podium Free ;)

I been working on a complete freeware guide for around 2 years. One main issue was always to find a decent sequencer that could handle loads of tasks and would be easy to understand for the beginner. I don't think a tracker or a multi-track audio editor is really good for a beginner, also a simple MIDI sequencer without audio features doesn't do it for me. Then there was Podium Free and now I can work out the final edges of my guide. I'm a Cubase user, but use it sometimes and I really like how it does handle different tasks, like for example bouncing audio.

If you still searching for a decent sequencer with loads of features, you might stop trying around with freeware, that might still have some missing features with you and talk a look on some commercial programs.

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Schism Tracker

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http://eval.sovietrussia.org/wiki/Schism_Tracker

An Impulse Tracker clone for Linux, Mac OS X, Windows, FreeBSD, AmigaOS, BeOS, and even the Wii (and any other platform that supports SDL).



...and while we're at it:

Milky Tracker
http://www.milkytracker.org

A Fast Tracker 2 clone for Linux, Mac OS X, Windows and many other (even portable) platforms.

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Thanks for the new suggestions, adding them now!
- Deathbliss
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Deathbliss wrote:emotica:

I don't care if it's the most amazing program in the world. I don't care if it can read my mind and create the music I just think about. I don't care if it has every feature I could ever want or imagine. I want nothing to do with limited, logoed software. However I do welcome your suggestion for readers not as anal about this as me.

I have not chosen a program yet, but the ones I am most interested in right now are Darkwave, LMMS, Macaw, Music Studio Producer, and Temper.
I can kinda understand this but in another way I simply can't. As someone who is into producing, with a limited budget, with an aspect of having paid for what I own or simply trying to find nice free alternatives, I do have an interest in a great value, fitting my needs.

The logo saying that you're using the Podium Free version is there because ehm, well... because it is the free version :shrug: It's like saying you don't like to read over the name of any program you are using when you open it.

LMMS - in theory a nice attempt of a FL clone. I for example would never use a program that is trying to be like another program, especially not with the limitations that LMMS got. No real ASIO support, no VST effects.

And for Temper - you having issues with using Reaper as you need to buy a license but you don't have a problem with using Temper as long as you want to? Same thing here to me again. Both developers obviously ask for money and Temper do have limitations as well, in the "free version" :wink:

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Podium Free needs to be added to the list, it's more free than the products that require registration because you don't even have to give any information to use Podium Free. I didn't even notice the tiny little logo before, which is the same size (in case anyone is wondering) as the combined size of the minimize, maximize and close buttons at the top right side of the window and sits unobtrusively just below them and is completely free to both look at or not notice at all.

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You can lead them to water but you can't make them drink... :|

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Temper removed from the list due to the limitations found my michi-mak.

Help me change my mind about Podium Free (using it, not adding it):

What does the one input/one output for midi mean exactly? Is it as it sounds, that you can use a midi keyboard or a mike but not both?

What are the ramifications of no ReWire support? Does this affect VST and VSTIs at all?

Can someone post a picture of the interface of Podium Free so I can see for myself what the logo looks like?

I need to be able to work with the Piano Roll, and I need to be able to enter notes from scratch. I would also like to be able to play a melody track and see the notes as I put in the notes for another instrument and harmonize the two together. I need to be able to load VST and VSTI and I might want to load Soundfonts. If I create a song I need to export it to a .wav or .mp3 or even .flac - anything DBPowerAmp can convert to .mp3. I need to be able to save my projects. I can't have any length of song limits. Considering all of this, do you thing Podium Free will meet my needs?
- Deathbliss
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Deathbliss wrote:Temper removed from the list due to the limitations found my michi-mak. Podium Free will not be added.

Still looking for verification of any free edition of Reaper so I can add it to the list.

Help me change my mind about Podium Free (using it, not adding it):

What does the one input/one output for midi mean exactly? Is it as it sounds, that you can use a midi keyboard or a mike but not both?

What are the ramifications of no ReWire support? Does this affect VST and VSTIs at all?

Can someone post a picture of the interface of Podium Free so I can see for myself what the logo looks like?

I need to be able to work with the Piano Roll, and I need to be able to enter notes from scratch. I would also like to be able to play a melody track and see the notes as I put in the notes for another instrument and harmonize the two together. I need to be able to load VST and VSTI and I might want to load Soundfonts. If I create a song I need to export it to a .wav or .mp3 or even .flac - anything DBPowerAmp can convert to .mp3. I need to be able to save my projects. I can't have any length of song limits. Considering all of this, do you thing Podium Free will meet my needs?
- Deathbliss
What about try it by yourself, it isnt the work of some evil corporation that contaminates on touch, even the big anarchists would use it.

Anyway as far as I know you should be able to all of that.
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Add Podium free.
Also add reaper (.99 was the last free version, and a simple google would've found it).

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metamorphosis wrote:Add Podium free.
Also add reaper (.99 was the last free version, and a simple google would've found it).
Free version of Reaper added...

I'm already considering adding Podium Free as at the author's site it says that each version of Podium is separate. If so then Podium Free would qualify for the list. I have to install it and try it before I can make a final decision. I hesitate doing so because nobody here has answered any of my questions or given me a real reason to do so.

Linux dual-boot install to try Ardour and Rosegarden is proving to be a pain in the arse. So far all I know is that you need a Live CD or USB specific version to install Linux from a USB stick. Otherwise the good 'ol CD install works - if you have a CD or DVD drive which I do not. Also it is impossible to find out if there is a patch or BIOS or something I can install on my Gateway 450RGH so that it can boot from the USB drive. So far it looks as though it can't. Another option is running Linux through Windows or running it from USB both of which have problems. So I'm giving up on Linux for now. Oh and for anyone else pursuing this further, also be aware that you need a processor with PAE support to install most of the Music Production Linux distros.

Until the information I have requested is provided I will begin searching for documentation and tutorials for the programs I have chosen to use. I will share any information I find, and update the information for each program as needed.
- Deathbliss
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Whether you think you can or you can't -
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