PreSonus Studio One FREE??!

[braj]

I'm not wondering about the plugins that come with it, but the plugins that don't, specifically midi effect plugins, wondering if it allows midi-out plugins to drive other plugins. Kind of a big deal to me, a deal-breaker if the answer is no. I also get a little confused by the interface but that groove function is AWESOME, really digging that one feature a lot and solves a lot of problems that I don't have an easy solution for in Reaper.

This groove function is very similar to what is found in the arp for Trilian/Omnisphere, with drag and drop midi which is awesome. So what arps are compatible with Studio one, anyone? class? Bueler?

[Tricky-Loops]

Are you really interested in potential customers??

Huh? I don't work for PreSonus (or any other music company) so, no idea what you mean, I'm a mix engineer mostly, and my customers use all diferent kinds of daws.

I think you have mistakenly confused me with a PreSonus employee. I'm not, just a user.

Sorry, I thought they had a customer support guy for all these non-issues...

[LawrenceF]

@ Braj: If you're asking can plugs send midi to other places, other instrumentas, yes. I use Catanya like that to feed other instruments, if that's what you mean. I also have sent midi from FLStudio to other tracks.

But midi inserts like Cubase, nothing like that unfortunately. Hope that helps a little.

But yeah, as far as I know, if a plug actually outputs midi it will show up as a input source for midi tracks. Any arp plug like Catanya should be compatible with it.

[LawrenceF]

Sorry, I thought they had a customer support guy for all these non-issues...

Haha. No problem. If I were an employee they'd have fired me a long time ago. I always get in trouble trying to help people help themselves. Especially here.

[botkiller]

Studio One is amazing. I've been producing my band's entire record in it, and mastering all my music in it as well. It really is now my favorite DAW, and I was a cubase guy for YEARS. I still use Ableton, but for straight up tracking, Studio One is the hit.

I do tutorials on it over here: http://bit.ly/obpresonustuts

If anyone's interested, ya know.

[botkiller]

I'm not wondering about the plugins that come with it, but the plugins that don't, specifically midi effect plugins, wondering if it allows midi-out plugins to drive other plugins. Kind of a big deal to me, a deal-breaker if the answer is no. I also get a little confused by the interface but that groove function is AWESOME, really digging that one feature a lot and solves a lot of problems that I don't have an easy solution for in Reaper.

This groove function is very similar to what is found in the arp for Trilian/Omnisphere, with drag and drop midi which is awesome. So what arps are compatible with Studio one, anyone? class? Bueler?

Yes, MIDI out plugins can control other plugins. The only major restriction I've found is that you can't route the audio output of a virtual instrument track to the input of an audio track, as many people do in Protools. I imagine this will get there, though; Studio one is really only about three years old, and I think it's already seen more growth in that time than some DAWs well over three times that age.

[braj]

@ Braj: If you're asking can plugs send midi to other places, other instrumentas, yes. I use Catanya like that to feed other instruments, if that's what you mean. I also have sent midi from FLStudio to other tracks.

But midi inserts like Cubase, nothing like that unfortunately. Hope that helps a little.

But yeah, as far as I know, if a plug actually outputs midi it will show up as a input source for midi tracks. Any arp plug like Catanya should be compatible with it.

Cool, that's what i was wondering does Catanya have to exist on its own track or can it sit in front of another VST in the track's effect chain (not the biggest deal, but wondering how easy it is to set up sends in S1 as well)? Does Catanya work with the track's groove functions or does it get overridden, and how easy is it to write Catanya's output to the piano roll? All these sorts of things I wish I would have tried when the demo was active

A BIG desire I have for Catanya is to get it to 'swing' and lock to grooves, right now it is a convoluted process in Reaper and applying groove templates or dealing with additional plugins that I have found can cause the whole house of cards to crash down at times. If S1 can handle this all elegantly I will start saving up for a producer license.

[LawrenceF]

Yeah, you'll need a midi track for it (to monitor your midi keyboard) and another for the other instrument... If you plan to record the arp output to midi and have it play that instrument back from the recorded clips.

If you're just programming the arp with the mouse and letting it run synced to the clock (if it will do that by itself) there's no need for an arrange track for it, not unless you need to actually play into it.

As to grroves, yeah. I rarely do anything in Catanya that I don't edit afterward anyway, after recording it to midi. So yeah, you should be able to treat it like any other midi clip... as realtes to applying grooves.

[botkiller]

On a side note, I like how S1 handles Virtual instruments, taking a bit of a call from Cubase and putting them into their own little "rack", allowing you to route MIDI accordingly without needing to connect specifically to arrange tracks. I've had a lot of fun using that feature for doing drum replacement.

[braj]

@Braj: Sorry, didnt mean to be pissy. I think my attempt at humor (see the smiley) failed.

Sorry.

It's ok, language is a virus

[braj]

Yeah, you'll need a midi track for it (to monitor your midi keyboard) and another for the other instrument... If you plan to record the arp output to midi and have it play that instrument back from the recorded clips.

If you're just programming the arp with the mouse and letting it run synced to the clock (if it will do that by itself) there's no need for an arrange track for it, not unless you need to actually play into it.

As to grroves, yeah. I rarely do anything in Catanya that I don't edit afterward anyway, after recording it to midi. So yeah, you should be able to treat it like any other midi clip... as realtes to applying grooves.

Cool, thanks. I really really wish Artist supported VSTs right now This is pretty much the one thing I am not happy about with Reaper and to me at least a killer feature of S1. Does it say anything about my level of brain damage though that I fine Reaper way more intuitive? After I figure stuff out in S1 it isn't a big deal, but simple stuff like copying regions confused me just need to get used to it and I very much appreciate the free version for doing that, again i think the included sampler is great and gives you lots to work with. It kind of forces me to not fool around with sound design so much and worry about the actual music, just I wish I had an arp. My kingdom for an arp!

[LawrenceF]

It's ok, language is a virus

Well, that's certainly true but I was wrong there. I thought you were talking about actual midi plugins, like Cubase, Reaper, whatever. The stuff you were talking about actually isn't easily discovered in print, so, yeah, my bad, the apology was very necessary.

I mean, although I was half joking It still missed your actual point completely.

[braj]

It's ok, language is a virus

Well, that's certainly true but I was wrong there. I thought you were talking about actual midi plugins, like Cubase, Reaper, whatever. The stuff you were talking about actually isn't easily discovered in print, so, yeah, my bad, the apology was very necessary.

I mean, although I was half joking It still missed your actual point completely.

Sorry if i wasn't so clear, and sorry for calling you pissy

[Musical Gym]

Is there a way to load Presence in another DAW?

[braj]

In the full version is there a way to add additional scales to the midi editor?