KVR Audio

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:34 pm

ttoz wrote:
bailees7irish wrote:
kmonkey wrote: btw pretty decent mix for a toy:

yes i can see that's all midi.

I should rephrase.

for serious AUDIO editing, FL is but a toy.

fair?

Well, for serious deep frying Logic is a toy too, so what's your point?

saintjohnbaxter · Post by **saintjohnbaxter** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:37 pm

ttoz wrote:dune_rave THAT makes sense

and i do have an unsellable license for it and i hear it's coming to mac, so it would be neat to use it for beat sequencing inside logic i must admit!

The 'Mac' version is just the Windows version run in Crossover. It runs quite well but it's still the Windows version running in a Windows environment. No Logic.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:42 pm

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stillshaded · Post by **stillshaded** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:55 pm

Well, from my perspective, there's not really a limit on what you can do with FL studio. It's entirely organizational/workflow issues for me.

For some people the workflow seems to work perfectly for, but I'm just to disorganized by nature to keep everything straight.

The elements of FLS are brilliant, they're just put together in a strange way. The only area it lacks some actual ability is in audio editing, true, but that's never really affected me that much.

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:07 pm

ttoz wrote:
TristezaOrange wrote:
ttoz wrote:
bailees7irish wrote:
kmonkey wrote: btw pretty decent mix for a toy:

yes i can see that's all midi.

I should rephrase.

for serious AUDIO editing, FL is but a toy.

fair?
Well, for serious deep frying Logic is a toy too, so what's your point?

that really is a weird statement. At least i have something to back up mine with.

Logic is one serious, professional bit of kit.

I will have you know it deep fries my olive oil chips to perfection.!

touche

luckystrike · Post by **luckystrike** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:24 am

Logic looks toy for me because it doesn't well support post production how Nuendo does. But who cares.

BASSDRIVE · Post by **BASSDRIVE** » Thu May 17, 2012 9:17 am

I feel you, I absolutely LOVE FL Studio, but it can become a cluttered mess. What they need to do is get rid of the Patterns and just make a Step Sequencer plugin so the option is there. The main things that keep me coming back to FL is definitely the Piano Roll, by far the most visual and easiest to use IMO. I also enjoy how it's so easy to loop and get a quick groove or idea going and I love how quickly it scans for new plugs with the option to select them manually. Other than that I wish it had more of a look like Studio One or Mix Craft.

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Thu May 17, 2012 10:54 am

FL studio can be as organised as any other DAW,just put some time into clour-coding,naming etc

its really not that hard

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu May 17, 2012 1:29 pm

Why does this evoke so much emotion from people? If anyone should be offended by that, it's the developers who spend many years working on making something that's very useful to many people, and then just about give it away with a lifetime license, not users.

Let me say this with unequivocally... many people consider Garageband a toy but not only does Apple not care what they think, and most GB users not care what they think, but I guarantee you there are people who sing and play guitar or similar who've produced and recorded and mixed really good music in it. People who have actual musical talent.

So some people think FLStudio is a toy. So what? Exactly how does that affect anyone's musical life?

So 1000 people think your DAW of choice is a big fail. So what? So the higher level of the recording and music production industry thinks most of us are just kids playing with toys... since most of us aren't actually making records that anyone will actually ever buy, so what?

P.S. Studio One also sucks. Nobody could ever make music with it.

Reaper? Major fail. Sonar? Impossible to do anything in that piece of garbage. PT? Instrument handling sucks so another major fail.

Live can't do 64-bit so it's impossible to make music with it. SAW? Ugly piece of trash that no proud producer would ever date.

Let's all just stop and wait for Bitwig Studio.

Or perhaps someone should pick up a C++ for dummies book and code the perfect DAW themselves.

alvfaria · Post by **alvfaria** » Thu May 17, 2012 2:19 pm

I like my toys!

I want to buy some more Mario Bros miniatures to put on top of my computer desk. I only have Mario and Goomba. Maybe a Toad action figure give a more psicodelic feel to my compositions!

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu May 17, 2012 2:34 pm

alvfaria wrote:I like my toys!

I want to buy some more Mario Bros miniatures to put on top of my computer desk.

I have a ScoobyDoo action figure, stuffed animal, in the studio (really, I do). No mojo happens without it.

Scooby has the funk.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Thu May 17, 2012 2:49 pm

Obviously I can't prove this, but I think that almost any DAW is plenty powerful enough to do serious work. The thing that holds a lot of people back is just not knowing simple things, like how important EQ shelving is or how to use a compressor for an artistic end rather than just squashing a signal. Things like that.

keel · Post by **keel** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:04 pm

ttoz wrote:for serious AUDIO editing, FL is but a toy.

Do you know that there is edison?

Build in audio editor? For me, that is doing all the audio editing, fast and easy.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:11 pm

keel wrote:
ttoz wrote:for serious AUDIO editing, FL is but a toy.
Do you know that there is edison? Build in audio editor? For me, that is doing all the audio editing, fast and easy.

I think they mean 'in track' (whatever the pro word for that would be) audio editing. True, that's a little rudimentary. I do think that tracking vocals would be pretty weird in FL. We always do that in Reaper and then start chopping it up there.

But my favourite audio editor is part of FL -- Edison.

alvfaria · Post by **alvfaria** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:24 pm

I think if IL release a Piano Roll VST plugin, they'll do lots of people happy (me included)

i wish fl studio was a true multitrack daw.