TAL U-NO-LX vs. DIVA

[ariston]

serious, modern sound design

What does t his mean, exactly?

Plucks, wubs and yoys.

I was going to say: plenty of deep mod options, but that about sums it up. Oh, and don't forget swushswushes, ribbledibbles and bringgggg-boing-doing-doings.

Speaking seriously: it takes a good deal of effort to program patches that respond to your playing just as a "real" instrument would. This is not usually important for the sequencer musician who is heavily annoyed by patches that respond to velocity, but as a keyboard player, I like to play sounds that feel alive. Modulating the cutoff with an LFO won't accomplish that. I used the word "modern" in this context to mean: utilizing the wonderful options that our computers give us to create sound that live and breathe.

and in ten years it will be something else and guess what. Yes Genesis ELP Floyd Kansas and the prog rock generation of artists that originated the sound will still be more interesting and those timeless classics will sound better and as if they were written in the future still.

I don't see how this relates in any way to anything I said, but if you feel better now,by all means go ahead.

[Tronam]

DIVA is wonderful and an easy recommendation across the board. It's like an analog synth history museum and can cover so many different kinds of sounds. The thing is, for a Juno owner such as myself, TAL's U-NO-LX is about as perfect an emulation as I've ever heard and totally endearing. If you're looking for something that's simple, easy to program, sounds great and totally nails that mid-80s Juno vibe, I can't recommend it highly enough. TAL even emulated that distinctive onboard chorus unit. But really, you can't go wrong with either one. If you can afford it, get them both.

[dexterbella]

serious, modern sound design

What does t his mean, exactly?

Plucks, wubs and yoys.

I was going to say: plenty of deep mod options, but that about sums it up. Oh, and don't forget swushswushes, ribbledibbles and bringgggg-boing-doing-doings.

Speaking seriously: it takes a good deal of effort to program patches that respond to your playing just as a "real" instrument would. This is not usually important for the sequencer musician who is heavily annoyed by patches that respond to velocity, but as a keyboard player, I like to play sounds that feel alive. Modulating the cutoff with an LFO won't accomplish that. I used the word "modern" in this context to mean: utilizing the wonderful options that our computers give us to create sound that live and breathe.

and in ten years it will be something else and guess what. Yes Genesis ELP Floyd Kansas and the prog rock generation of artists that originated the sound will still be more interesting and those timeless classics will sound better and as if they were written in the future still.

Not everybody is interested in sounding like somebody else from the seventies! That's your thing and that's fine but a lot of other people are looking to do other things with their synths.

[GalleryHakon]

I've not tried TAL yet, but I played through Diva presets the other day at the highest quality level (which didn't seem to be as CPU hungry as the warnings suggest (though my i7 is relatively powerful still), and I think Diva sounds lush and lovely as well as seeming rather versatile.

[damargeo]

as im narrowing down my shopping list i have to ask you who got more experiences than me , i like the TAL one but as i wanna get DIVA (too) i wanted to ask how those 2 are compared to each other?
if diva includes the TAL juno already or if TAL has some uniqueness?

DIVA has the Juno oscillator, but that's it. It's not a perfect emulation. DIVA has modules from the Juno, the Jupiter-8, the Jupiter-6, the MS-10 and MS-20 and the Minimoog (and soon two others), but does not intend to be a perfect emulation of any of these.
TAL U-NO-LX is a perfect emulation of the Juno-60. So, if you want the Juno-60, go for it. If you want to have several variations on the "vintage analog" theme, go for DIVA.

created sweet dreams on the TAL U-NO vst, it sounds quite close to the original juno-60

[Painmooser]

However, if you've used U-NO-LX and enjoyed playing with it, why not just get it, music is much more about inspiration. If a synth can give you that, I wouldn't care so much if it overlaps with other synths you might have.

this is good advise