The main thing is a Start button that actually functions like it should do, basically like it used to with a few extra customization options.woggle wrote:I looked at the shells but thought hitting the windows key was quicker to get the desktop. Or just set the default opening screen to the desktop. What does classic shell give you over desktop view in 8.1?
What OS are you using in late 2014?
- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
not something that I notice really - the current start button replacement has the same functionality in practice for me. In some ways I prefer the tighter menuing system on there now - but obviously (and fair enough) some people don't like the change.mutantdog wrote:The main thing is a Start button that actually functions like it should do, basically like it used to with a few extra customization options.woggle wrote:I looked at the shells but thought hitting the windows key was quicker to get the desktop. Or just set the default opening screen to the desktop. What does classic shell give you over desktop view in 8.1?
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
XP use has declined recently http://www.informationweek.com/software ... id/1317798Kriminal wrote:Win7. No probs here. I read 25% of users still use xp. Obviously not kvr members....
Since XP - and aside from Vista - there has been little reason to upgrade OS on an existing machine. I've not seen an analysis done on the effect of that on sales
- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
I'm still on XP
It's not that I 'want' to stay on XP. But there are several reasons (for now) to do just that. First of all my studio computer is quite old, still running fine (under XP) and very stable, but certainly not capable of running newer OS versions. Upgrading the OS means a new machine, and I don't have the cash for that now. However, the main kicker is the fact that I have many hardware devices integrated with my DAW. And remembering the USB port hell that windows is, and the amount of work getting everything to work at the same time, I'm VERY reluctant to move to a new OS and/or machine.
As long as it's not broken, I'm not gona fix it
It's not that I 'want' to stay on XP. But there are several reasons (for now) to do just that. First of all my studio computer is quite old, still running fine (under XP) and very stable, but certainly not capable of running newer OS versions. Upgrading the OS means a new machine, and I don't have the cash for that now. However, the main kicker is the fact that I have many hardware devices integrated with my DAW. And remembering the USB port hell that windows is, and the amount of work getting everything to work at the same time, I'm VERY reluctant to move to a new OS and/or machine.
As long as it's not broken, I'm not gona fix it
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
The only problem that prevents me to migrate definitely to Windows 7 (orcrimsonwarlock wrote:I'm still on XP![]()
It's not that I 'want' to stay on XP. But there are several reasons (for now) to do just that. First of all my studio computer is quite old, still running fine (under XP) and very stable, but certainly not capable of running newer OS versions. Upgrading the OS means a new machine, and I don't have the cash for that now. However, the main kicker is the fact that I have many hardware devices integrated with my DAW.
So, I have two amt 8 perfectly functional, and I have to throw them to the trash and buy two other USB MIDI interfaces (MOTU MIDI Express, for exemple). This is an expense that I still didn't had the guts to do, but the alternative is to give up of all the hardware except a MIDI controller in Windows 7.
Fernando (FMR)
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penguinfromdeep penguinfromdeep https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=193898
- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
Yosemite and I'm very happy with it, was bit reluctant to update but I was pleasantly surprised
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
- KVRAF
- 37378 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
What are the benefits from an audio POV? I have held back due to concerns about compatibility but I think most of those are resolved now.penguinfromdeep wrote:Yosemite and I'm very happy with it, was bit reluctant to update but I was pleasantly surprised
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- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
To me it actually feels faster and bit snappier so usability is slightly better. I also like the look very much, of course this is subjective and some people don't like it. From audio POV I think there's not much difference really, all my plug-ins still work, no compatibility problems at all.aMUSEd wrote:
What are the benefits from an audio POV? I have held back due to concerns about compatibility but I think most of those are resolved now.
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
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- KVRist
- 443 posts since 16 Aug, 2010
A flaw found “serious” was discovered by Emil Kvarnhammar, a Swedish security expert. It is located at OS X Yosemite, the new Apple operating system for Mac. This fault, not publicly disclosed, allows you to take control of a Mac with administrator rights, or the most important rights. The real problem is the possibility of obtaining such rights, even if the user has set a password on the session. Emil Kvarnhammar was able to bypass this step.
http://sitejunkiesapple.com/2014/11/os- ... ntrol-mac/
Again it is all about spying on all world!
http://www.imore.com/russia-wants-apple ... sed-spying
After China, Russia could ban Apple products.
http://intelnews.org/2014/12/04/01-1604/
http://sitejunkiesapple.com/2014/11/os- ... ntrol-mac/
Again it is all about spying on all world!
http://www.imore.com/russia-wants-apple ... sed-spying
After China, Russia could ban Apple products.
http://intelnews.org/2014/12/04/01-1604/
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- KVRist
- 305 posts since 25 Jun, 2010
Win 8.1 has the start menu. You just right click the windows icon in the bottom left to get to boot/restart options, device manger etc.lesha wrote:Install any classic start menu replacement (like Start8 for example), get rid of the apps and everything is fine, no problems at all.enroe wrote:Music PC: Windows XP
Grafics PC: Windows 8
The irritationswith windows 8 were so giant (colourful tiles all over, no start-
menu, many apps which do something in the background: automatic internet
connections + uploads) that i actually ponder on a switch to a linux-system ...
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
I wouldn't really call that a start menu, more of a half-arsed attempt at trying to calm the complaints. ClassicShell (and presumably Start8) actually brings back full functionality there.
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
because of my work I am interested in what you see as the missing functionality - what sort of things do you use the start menu for that you can't do in 8.1?mutantdog wrote:I wouldn't really call that a start menu, more of a half-arsed attempt at trying to calm the complaints. ClassicShell (and presumably Start8) actually brings back full functionality there.
