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Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu May 21, 2015 6:52 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Who said anything about buying soundbanks because they liked the images? We just like the images.

Who are 'we'

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:04 pm

Kriminal wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Who said anything about buying soundbanks because they liked the images? We just like the images.
Who are 'we'

People who said in this thread they like the images.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:08 pm

Ooooh.... so liking the images isnt connected to liking the soundbanks, you just like pretty pictures.

Fair enough.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:09 pm

As in a comparison to a creative art, to which has been implied by some here.
I would expect to pay more for a one of a kind original than a series of the same thing, and would expect to pay even less for a limited reprint and even less for mass produced reprints.

The analogy to art (as a creative process) is relative in that all software is essentially made for mass consumption and an artists worth is therefore quantified in numbers of sales rather than uniqueness by a few. Making a product in a mass produced way unique by pricing it for only the few seems a bit dichotomous then. And what we often see is the dissonance of that expressed by both the customers and developers.

It's usually hardest for me to justify any soundset that costs more than the plugin itself (which happens often in the case of Kontakt).

In any event, I buy what I like when they have a sale decent enough to justify it. Because on a consumers side of things, it won't be the only one I buy and I won't be the only one that owns it.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:21 pm

Kriminal wrote:Ooooh.... so liking the images isnt connected to liking the soundbanks, you just like pretty pictures.

Fair enough.

I haven't even heard the Samplephonics stuff, but I thought the artwork was great. But no one said they buy banks on the basis of liking the artwork (although like any good advert it certainly may attract a potential buyers attention - which is what it's for).

Commissioning artwork for the sound design company though may add to the cost of the product (which was the original point).

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:34 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Ooooh.... so liking the images isnt connected to liking the soundbanks, you just like pretty pictures.

Fair enough.
I haven't even heard the Samplephonics stuff, but I thought the artwork was great.

is it relevant to the product tho? No...you never get to 'see' a preset. If ppl are more likely to buy a soundbank because of a picture of an imaginary box...well....

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:38 pm

Kriminal wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Ooooh.... so liking the images isnt connected to liking the soundbanks, you just like pretty pictures.

Fair enough.
I haven't even heard the Samplephonics stuff, but I thought the artwork was great.
is it relevant to the product tho? No...you never get to 'see' a preset. If ppl are more likely to buy a soundbank because of a picture of an imaginary box...well....

As I said I don't think anyone said they would buy a bank on the basis of an image. It may be a factor in getting their attention though, as would any good advert, it's what they are for. But one can appreciate a well designed advert or product artwork without liking or wanting to buy the products (I always loved that Guinness ad with the surf horses but I hate Guinness).

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:42 pm

Kriminal wrote:is it relevant to the product tho?

Because you did not read the initial post carefully (where's whyterabbit when one needs him...) you run into a tone that was neither intended nor anyone - besides you - is thinking about.

Why not relax?

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Thu May 21, 2015 7:48 pm

Soundset "artwork" in the 90's:

In 2015 the kids need something like this to buy a soundset:

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu May 21, 2015 8:03 pm

elassi wrote:
Why not relax?

Im very relaxed thanks. Having a drink and listening to to a few records.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu May 21, 2015 8:05 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
As I said I don't think anyone said they would buy a bank on the basis of an image. It may be a factor in getting their attention though, as would any good advert, it's what they are for.

But apparently its 'packaging'

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:11 pm

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:17 pm

Where is Rob-Lee when you need him?

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:18 pm

trimph1 wrote:Where is Rob-Lee when you need him?

He's busy playing with his new microkorg, like me.
see---> http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... g#p6097743

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:19 pm

BBFG# wrote: ..... The analogy to art (as a creative process) is relative in that all software is essentially made for mass consumption and an artists worth is therefore quantified in numbers of sales rather than uniqueness by a few. Making a product in a mass produced way unique by pricing it for only the few seems a bit dichotomous then. And what we often see is the dissonance of that expressed by both the customers and developers.

And your analogy stops right there because musical instruments is a niche market, software instruments a smaller one, and afaik a really small one, and soundsets market an tiny percentage of the above ( because a soundset is made for ONE synth amongst dozens and not all the people who bought the synth will buy soundbanks for it, if only *the soundbank* you made ) So, unfortunately, there's nothing similar to *mass market* to be found.

Then, from lithographies to Wharol, a lot of *art* has seen duplicated copies still considered as *art*.

So that .... it might not be so simple

Cost of soundbanks - often expensive