KVR Audio

Xenakios · Post by **Xenakios** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:50 pm

I am still working on this. I think I need to add one major feature before a public test release. Namely, something that will make it easier to deal with the CDP programs that only process mono signals. Which would be for example all the spectral processes...At the moment it's of course already possible to process stereo and higher channel counts with the mono-only CDP processes but it involves manually splitting and merging the signals as needed, which is a PITA. Also there's no parameter linking yet...

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:07 pm

Thanks for putting such careful thought into it, Xenakios!

nitedwella · Post by **nitedwella** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:52 pm

oh! i'd really like to test this as well.

i use CDP quite a lot in my tracks and i'd really love not having to see Soundloom or Soundshaper ever again in my life.

Xenakios · Post by **Xenakios** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:07 am

Some kind of release is closer than before but there still sure is a lot of details to think about...

The number of available CDP programs/processings is staggering(*) and can maybe be appreciated more from this scrolling list animation...

http://i.imgur.com/Ala00En.gifv

The caveat is that most of these can't be tested and proven to work by me. Help from you folks will be needed to sort all these out once I get the release out...

(*) Of course many of the programs are just small variations on the same idea...Still, I can imagine exploring what they all do would be a project lasting many months...

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:10 am

Many hands make light work! Perhaps if ypu divide it up, we can each sign up for a section?

Xenakios · Post by **Xenakios** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:19 am

Michael L wrote:Many hands make light work! Perhaps if ypu divide it up, we can each sign up for a section?

Well, I suppose a "shotgun" approach will work. People can report when they hit a persistent problem with some CDP program. Then it can be determined if the problem is due to the GUI frontend code or a problem in the CDP program itself.

Currently my hesitation to make the public release is about all kinds of functional issues : things not updating correctly in the GUI when expected etc...There are also some cosmetics issues in the GUI, the sizes of things are not right for everything and some things are not hidden when they should be and so on. Stability seems pretty good though : crashes in the frontend happen rarely and I am fairly confident there are no major memory leaks.

cron · Post by **cron** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:52 pm

Hugely excited by this.

Would be delighted to beta test this if it'd be helpful at all. I've used CDP since 2006; mostly the waveset, envelope, grain (what CDP calls grain - i.e. not brassage), and pvoc programs. I only really have experience with the single-input variants of these programs though - Soundshaper makes it too much of a faff to work with processes requiring multiple files. Please give me a shout if you're looking for Windows testers in those areas.

Xenakios · Post by **Xenakios** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:18 pm

cron wrote:I only really have experience with the single-input variants of these programs though - Soundshaper makes it too much of a faff to work with processes requiring multiple files. Please give me a shout if you're looking for Windows testers in those areas.

Since you mentioned this, I looked a bit into some more complicated scenarios involving multiple input files of different types. After some fixing in the code, for example this arrangement seems to now work :

The "envel impose" node takes a wav file as the first input and a volume envelope analysis file as the second input. Programs taking in multiple files of the same type have more or less worked before already.

Xenox.AFL · Post by **Xenox.AFL** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:36 am

Talking about CDP, i downloaded the latest version and tried to install on the mac running sierra and got an error while installing it... Did anyone know if this is a bug in the installer itself or is it a problem with sierra (mac 10.12)

Frank

Xenakios · Post by **Xenakios** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:50 am

Xenox.AFL wrote:Talking about CDP, i downloaded the latest version and tried to install on the mac running sierra and got an error while installing it... Did anyone know if this is a bug in the installer itself or is it a problem with sierra (mac 10.12)

Frank

I recall the installer is broken on El Capitan too...However, the CDP programs should be usable without running the installer too by using the package on the CDP download site that has only the CDP binaries. You won't get the documentation that way.

http://www.unstablesound.net/downloads/ ... -07-16.zip

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:22 am

Xenox.AFL wrote:Talking about CDP, i downloaded the latest version and tried to install on the mac running sierra and got an error while installing it... Did anyone know if this is a bug in the installer itself or is it a problem with sierra (mac 10.12)

Frank

I've had it installed on Yosemite for a while now. Maybe that was the last compatible Os

Xenox.AFL · Post by **Xenox.AFL** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:50 pm

I can't remember how i worked with CDP some years ago but it's working without installing everything? Ok, i will check it...

Frank

cron · Post by **cron** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:53 pm

Oh man, that multiple input solution looks wonderful. Just being able to do it at all without hair-pulling would be hugely welcome, but being able to do it in a single pass is on another level.

Xenakios · Post by **Xenakios** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:44 am

Almost made me crazy but now the mechanism to automatically split and merge the signals when needed works to some degree now...(The source file in the screencap is 8 channels, so it needs to be split into 8 signals for processing with the CDP Distort Repeat program etc...)

cron · Post by **cron** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:24 pm

Fantastic!

Composers Desktop Project, still relevant ??