KVR Audio

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Wed May 11, 2016 9:21 am

tehlord wrote: There's more to hardware than just getting the job done.

Yes. I usually turn to software when I want to get something done.. I use hardware to actually have fun and get inspired.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed May 11, 2016 9:43 am

tehlord wrote:
mcnoone wrote:
recursive one wrote:
Besides price, there are also the workflow factors, such as total recall, multiple instances etc.
Yea, that's another thing.
The latency, and having to find the correct target setting to make up for it, make hardware synths a pain to deal with. I have a usb midi connection on my hardware synth, and the latency is so bad, that I have to spend a long time adjusting the parameters which still ends up much worse than any software synth. I imagine midi connectors are even worse for that.
That's like saying that playing Forza is better than driving a real car because it doesn't require insurance or fuel to make it run.

There's more to hardware than just getting the job done.

There are people (like me) who love hardware synths that may be operated as plugins, there are people who want Massive and Alchemy in hardware form. Different approaches, different workflow.

Gridlocked · Post by **Gridlocked** » Wed May 11, 2016 9:51 am

I've been in love with analogue synths since as long as I can remember, I enjoy coming into my studio and seeing all the keyboards set up…it gives me the same sort of pleasure I can imagine some people get from owning a classic car.

Do I care for analogue vs digital? No. They all have their plus points and their negatives, for example I get a joy from using the older synths that software can't replace, however software stays in tune and has all the recall / automation I need. Generally when working on music (especially for media) it needs to be done yesterday, recall is VERY handy when working quickly!

I completely agree though that software would be better suited to creating new ideas rather than emulating what has gone before, but the best thing is to keep making music!

Now the real debate is Pro Tools vs Logic vs Cubase...

Aryaroman · Post by **Aryaroman** » Wed May 11, 2016 10:12 am

tehlord wrote:That's like saying that playing Forza is better than driving a real car because it doesn't require insurance or fuel to make it run.

There's more to hardware than just getting the job done.

Now that we're at it, does anyone know what synths were used on the Forza 3/4 soundtracks? Sounds nicely analog to me, but what would I know. I can tweak even Tyrell to sound analog-enough to my ears, so I must be analog-deaf or something.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Wed May 11, 2016 11:33 am

Urs wrote: When I look at our sales figures it's quite obvious that "emulation capabilities" is the strongest selling point there is in this industry.

Yes. Until now. But that is going to change

You better prepare yourselves and get ahead of it all

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Wed May 11, 2016 2:25 pm

Codestation wrote:Red.

EVERY METER BLOOD RED.

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Wed May 11, 2016 2:38 pm

kenobi77 · Post by **kenobi77** » Wed May 11, 2016 3:12 pm

What fuels so much of this for me is the software emulations. They mostly look and operate like the machines they clone, and also claim to sound authentic. I find myself wondering how close, or which one is best. The more pertinent question I should be asking is "what does this fulfil for me".

Something like NI massive doesn't really create this debate for me, I see it as something that was designed from the beginning as a software tool and it's an easy case of "like it for what it is".

My 2p.

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Wed May 11, 2016 3:37 pm

YAWN....................

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:05 am

R.I.P analog vs digital debate

See guys, that wasn't hard at all.

Now, which VSTi sounds most "FM", you think?

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:23 am

foosnark wrote:
Codestation wrote:Red.

EVERY METER BLOOD RED.
IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR

YES - WE MUST DESTROY DYNAMICS CRUSH THEM
Boost the mids CUT THE LOWS AND THE HIGHS ENTIRELY!

ONLY A SINGLE notch left at 750 hz! MAXED!

If a meter moves from max position at all THE WHOLE PROCESS has FAILED!

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Fri May 13, 2016 5:04 am

Let's bury the debate by adding YET ANOTHER thread/debate

"HEY APPLE!!!! HEY, HEY APPLE!"

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Fri May 13, 2016 12:37 pm

It's all the f**king retards who want to buy analog emulation VSTis that replicate the bad interfaces designed 30 years down to all usability issues, but in flat 2D form to be used with mouse, and which sounds almost like the original

almost

In the end who wins? Lazy developers. Who loses? Everyone who'd like the synth industry to make some god damn progress for once.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Fri May 13, 2016 1:32 pm

Some ppl just make music with this stuff too

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Fri May 13, 2016 1:43 pm

By the looks pf the "sexier" meme. I'd say both men and women like hardware more, because of the action of turning the knobs, and pushing the levers.
It clearly has the erotic edge to it, for the advantage.

Edit: Let's revive the analog vs. digital debate once and for all