New Sonar Platinum Update

[JoseC.]

Oooooooohhhhh,

So, I'm NOT the person who's just trolling to make trouble and other people hate it too..............awwee, poor jose, poor chirofuckit, poor lawyerance........so sad..........

Nobody said that you are the only special trollflake, man

[BBFG#]

I've updated my Win 10 home machine but haven't yet updated my Win 7 Studio machine. So far, it's been fantastic. Load balance has been my most consistent feature request since I returned to using Sonar as my main DAW.

If they give me back the ability to use two class compliant boards of the same make and model like it was in X3, then it will be the best it's ever been.

[incubus]

Oooooooohhhhh,

So, I'm NOT the person who's just trolling to make trouble and other people hate it too..............awwee, poor jose, poor chirofuckit, poor lawyerance........so sad..........

Nobody said that you are the only special trollflake, man

Hun? Dude, troll harder or stop. Seriously, just in this thread alone, it's pretty obvious how many people don't like the product. But trying to talk common sense into someone like you is like trying to explain doing the right thing ... to a
Spaniard

[JoseC.]

Hun? Dude, troll harder or stop. Seriously, just in this thread alone, it's pretty obvious how many people don't like the product. But trying to talk common sense into someone like you is like trying to explain doing the right thing ... to a
Spaniard

Woa, you are really butthurt.

Anyway, if this thread alone is the proof, I was right above about the number of Sonar haters (and most them being you ). By the way, everybody is entitled to their own dislikes, even venting them from time to time, but when this becomes so obsessive like in your case, it is logical that you end up being the buffoon.

[whyterabbyt]

So, I'm NOT the person who's just trolling to make trouble .

Yes you are.

[jinotsuh]

I've updated my Win 10 home machine but haven't yet updated my Win 7 Studio machine. So far, it's been fantastic. Load balance has been my most consistent feature request since I returned to using Sonar as my main DAW.

I took the latest for a test run, I check every now and then to see whats cooking, I think last release there seemed to be some good performance improvements, which turned out to be because of the lead up work for the load balancing (or so I read) Interesting to read Cakewalks comments on it and the documentation, shame they say it doesn't do much for vsti's like Rapture Pro etc, but still it's pretty good. Don't forget you have to turn it ON in preferences.

Stopped using SONAR about 18 months/2 years ago, I'll be staying with my current DAW of choice, very happy with it, unlikely I'll ever return to SONAR, but you never know, that's why I got the Lifetime Updates, maybe they will get their act together sometime down the track

[koolkeys]

I am having a hard time deciding what to do with Sonar. I've been going back and forth between Sonar and Studio One the last couple of years, each for their own particular reasons. But lately I just feel uninspired in Sonar. Maybe it is just the "grass is greener" syndrome, but I've been testing Cubase 8.5 and I'm REALLY liking it (so much so that I bought one on sale here at KVR yesterday). So many great improvements since the last time I used it.

The thing is, Sonar has actually improved quite a bit. In fact, there have been several great features added since the subscription program started. The performance has gotten MUCH better over the last year or two. But I just don't get the vibe of where they are going. I am not sure if Cakewalk knows exactly what Sonar is supposed to be. It is powerful, but just not inspiring to me lately. Maybe it's because I don't need another compressor module for ProChannel, or new effects chains or presets from Craig Anderton, or new skins for existing plugins. Sure, there have been a few good improvements to the browser and comping, and performance improvements are welcome. Plugin load balancing is definitely something worth improving.

And to be honest, Sonar has been more stable than I can remember it being in a long time. I have no problems in that area (outside of a few plugins that seem to fail the scan from time to time). So I'm actually happy with how solid it has been for me lately.

But for whatever reason, I'm on the fence. I don't mind switching between hosts because I don't do music full-time anymore and I don't get locked down with dozens of projects. I like experimenting and seeing what is out there.

It is possible that I might just get the lifetime upgrade on my account and come back to it later. There are so many great things to like about Sonar. I've used Sonar more than any other host in terms of the number of years I've owned it and used it (it even surpassed Tracktion, which I used for quite a long time). But right now, it just feels a bit clunky to me. It hasn't always felt that way. Surely I'm not the only one?

Sorry, just rambling. I guess I just get a little confused on what Sonar is trying to be, and where they are going. I don't have concerns about their financial future or anything like that. And I still enjoy working in Sonar far more than I do in Reaper and others I've used. So who knows. My host A.D.D. is terrible, lol.

Brent

[telecharge]

Surely I'm not the only one?

I'm with you except for wondering about what Sonar is trying to be. It's not something I think about because I assume they're doing the same thing as everyone else -- trying to broaden their appeal without alienating their user base.

There will likely never be ONE DAW TO RULE THEM ALL, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. We all have different values, philosophies, and priorities when it comes to this stuff. I mentioned in a previous post in this thread that I have shelved Sonar and Studio One for the time being due to poor support. That may not matter to others, but it's a dealbreaker for me. But I will concede that Studio One feels lighter and snappier than Sonar. I prefer Studio One's interface, too.

[incubus]

Hun? Dude, troll harder or stop. Seriously, just in this thread alone, it's pretty obvious how many people don't like the product. But trying to talk common sense into someone like you is like trying to explain doing the right thing ... to a
Spaniard

Woa, you are really butthurt.

Anyway, if this thread alone is the proof, I was right above about the number of Sonar haters (and most them being you ). By the way, everybody is entitled to their own dislikes, even venting them from time to time, but when this becomes so obsessive like in your case, it is logical that you end up being the buffoon.

Butthurt? Listen buster, I've had more of that (willingly) than a drag queen in New Orleans.

Funny, you keep barking like one of the little pathetic dogs, but you're outnumbered. I think the truth hurts more than this "butthurt" thing you kiddies keep on about.

[Kalamata Kid]

My two top DAW's I am considering are Studio One and Sonar Platinum.
Both have ARA support. Otherwise Cubase and FLS would be included.

Sonar is a bit (pun intended) ahead of S1 as it has a built-in 32 bit to 64 bit bridge.
Sonar will be adding Workspaces by years end.
https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR ... ates#start
which I assume is similar to Multi-instruments in S1.

So then very likely the winner will be Sonar!
But Cubase 9, FLS 13 and Hollyhock 3 will be out within 4 months which may upset my plans.

[jinotsuh]

My two top DAW's I am considering are Studio One and Sonar Platinum.
Both have ARA support. Otherwise Cubase and FLS would be included.

Sonar is a bit (pun intended) ahead of S1 as it has a built-in 32 bit to 64 bit bridge.
Sonar will be adding Workspaces by years end.
https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR ... ates#start
which I assume is similar to Multi-instruments in S1.

So then very likely the winner will be Sonar!
But Cubase 9, FLS 13 and Hollyhock 3 will be out within 4 months which may upset my plans.

Only thing with that is, they tell you to stay away from 32 bit plugs, and if you have an issue one of the first things they ask you is are using any 32bit stuff, so not exactly a selling point the way I see it

It is possible that I might just get the lifetime upgrade on my account and come back to it later. There are so many great things to like about Sonar. I've used Sonar more than any other host in terms of the number of years I've owned it and used it (it even surpassed Tracktion, which I used for quite a long time). But right now, it just feels a bit clunky to me. It hasn't always felt that way. Surely I'm not the only one?

After using Studio One for the last 18 months/2 years, when I do go back to see whats cooking in SONAR, I don't really like staying there long, I just looks and feels old to me now or something I don't know, just don't want to be there, and yes it can feel 'clunky', and very frustrating with all of it's little quirks and required workarounds for stuff that should just work, but doesn't and hasn't for years.

Lifetime updates is a good thing if you can get them for a good price, I got mine for $99 upon release, and even though I have moved on from SONAR and now use something else I didn't mind parting with that $99, like you are thinking, for the ability to keep an eye on it, and go back at anytime should that happen, without further expense. Don't think I would have paid $199 or higher for them though

[telecharge]

My two top DAW's I am considering are Studio One and Sonar Platinum.
Both have ARA support.

Plenty of anxious Sonar users are waiting for a Melodyne update. Here is a good, recent thread on using Melodyne with Sonar.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Melodyne-4-m3492256.aspx

Studio One has the advantage here as ARA was developed by Celemony together with PreSonus.

Sonar is a bit (pun intended) ahead of S1 as it has a built-in 32 bit to 64 bit bridge.

Yes, I like this about both Sonar and FL Studio.

[JoseC.]

Hun? Dude, troll harder or stop. Seriously, just in this thread alone, it's pretty obvious how many people don't like the product. But trying to talk common sense into someone like you is like trying to explain doing the right thing ... to a
Spaniard

Woa, you are really butthurt.

Anyway, if this thread alone is the proof, I was right above about the number of Sonar haters (and most them being you ). By the way, everybody is entitled to their own dislikes, even venting them from time to time, but when this becomes so obsessive like in your case, it is logical that you end up being the buffoon.

Butthurt? Listen buster, I've had more of that (willingly) than a drag queen in New Orleans.

Funny, you keep barking like one of the little pathetic dogs, but you're outnumbered. I think the truth hurts more than this "butthurt" thing you kiddies keep on about.

Now you are foaming

Thanks for calling me a kiddie, though

[BBFG#]

I don't think I've ever considered a DAW as being 'inspiring'. Rather I've always felt its use was to be as transparent in flow and not create obstacles to what and where the inspiration came and how it is being expressed. That is, for me, it should capture the inspiration more than be it.

Upgraded both systems now, and so far, it has been a very pleasant experience.
Seriously considering letting go of Cubase completely now.

[D-Fusion]

I love the new update
Even my Roland vst's are cpu friendly now with load balancing enabled.
Happy that i stayed with Sonar and bought the lifetime upgrade