Voxengo SPAN 3.0 FFT spectrum analyzer plugin released

[Hermetech Mastering]

Another vote for integrated LUFS in SPAN, pretty please? You might not see the point or need, Aleksey, but many of us are required by clients to conform to certain loudness standards, and these days that is measured in integrated LUFS, either by short musical sections or the whole track.

On a personal note, it's a FAR better gauge of perceived loudness than simple RMS (or even the ridiculous DR figures quoted like the bible by audiophiles), which bears little resemblance to how the human ear perceives loudness and is better relegated to mathematical/technical/engineering measurements.

If Span Plus included 'resettable' integrated LUFS in some way, I'm pretty sure you'd guarantee many more sales, mine for certain!

[juhhie]

So there is a "bigger picture" than just one white paper and "one standard" that you folks try to grasp on as tight as possible and try to force as an inclusion into SPAN.

Hold your horses LOL, not trying to "force" anything into SPAN, just asked a simple question. And I think I got my answer. Just moving on to other products, no harm done. Thanks!

[dreamvoid]

All loudness meters are wrong, because they either measure short-time or long-time loudness. For short-time loudness overcompression will read lower than dynamic material. For long-time loudness overcompression may read the same, but perceptually it may sound louder because long-time estimation does not consider short-time loudness.

Isn't it the point of the EBU R-128 to combine three metering methods to avoid this:
- "Short-term integration window is especially useful when dealing with ‘foreground signals’, for example, a narrator’s voice."
- The Momentary Loudness Meter behaves more agile and thus provides more detail.
- With the Maximum Permitted True Peak Level in production being −1 dBTP the phenomenon of ‘hitting the wall’ (meaning the former safety limiter usually operating at −9 dBFS) is now much less likely to occur."

Furthermore, we have now (2016) EBU R128 S1 for short program material like adverts etc. as long term measurements are invalid for, lets say, a 30 sec ad spot.

[Lesha]

What's wrong with TBProAudio dpMeter II?

[MogwaiBoy]

What's wrong with TBProAudio dpMeter II?

Nothing really - it is absolutely fantastic and I recommend everyone here get it if they want LUFs measurements. But it doesn't give you the spectrum analysis that SPAN does. Using them side by side is fine but having LUFS measurements in SPAN would be very handy. Not going to get too entitled about it though as both Voxengo and TBProAudio are very generous with their respective free offerings.

[mementus]

Guys I ask here if possible please.
I have followed tutorials with no sucess at all.

Could you please write me a tutorial for Cubase on how to route only two tracks of an entire mix into SPAN?
I am going crazy!

Thank you.

[pixel85]

Guys I ask here if possible please.
I have followed tutorials with no sucess at all.

Could you please write me a tutorial for Cubase on how to route only two tracks of an entire mix into SPAN?
I am going crazy!

Thank you.

Create Effect/Aux track and put SPAN there. Then simply route sends on your selected tracks to this Effect track. You can route other effect/group tracks there to.

EDIT: set sends to post-fader

[pixel85]

Does anyone even read what I write? Guess not.

I did! And I'm absolutely agree with you.

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I think that best way is to make test by ourselves. With one track with dynamics (prefered music with drums) and other one pushed hard by limiter/clipper. Or even better: the same track with and without limiter on master bus. Then set both to ITU -16dB standard and check what you hear. I can hear the same loudness in loudest parts but track with limiter chokes. When dynamic track is punchy (drums) then other one sound like something stoping it from take full punch and breath.. transients... what? So nothing more than typical artifacts of limiting. But perceived loudness is the same. So obviously track with dynamics win this battle

[mementus]

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Thank You.
AFAIK Span has a feature that allows you to display different colors for each signal you are sending into it.
I am interested in this feature.

[Dúnedain]

Interesting, and it is free as well.

So say I have two patches from 2 different synths, identical at first sight. Then I can analyse the difference between them with Voxengo

[mementus]

Interesting, and it is free as well.

So say I have two patches from 2 different synths, identical at first sight. Then I can analyse the difference between them with Voxengo

Yes, with different colors, too. (:
The problem is that the routing is complicated (for me).