New VST workstation

[nerd]

Or are there samples here that were re-recorded, or processed, from hardware workstations or other sample libraries?

I really don't want to interrupt.

But out of interest, is it legal to play any VST, including soundware, on loudspeakers and then capture the samples and sell them? German (..my..) copyright is like "well, if you create something new and freely", like the "clean room" requirement.

[KBSoundSmith]

Or are there samples here that were re-recorded, or processed, from hardware workstations or other sample libraries?

I really don't want to interrupt.

But out of interest, is it legal to play any VST, including soundware, on loudspeakers and then capture the samples and sell them? German (..my..) copyright is like "well, if you create something new and freely", like the "clean room" requirement.

Seems dicey to me. My gut instinct says no ... and my "don't get sued" sixth-sense advises not to try it.

[jancivil]

This much ground covered with an extremely light footprint and same quality as the heaviest footprint is just not very likely, frankly. It looks like it's targeted at naïve Producer types. That many raw samples would be forever to create.

[nineofkings]

This much ground covered with an extremely light footprint and same quality as the heaviest footprint is just not very likely, frankly. It looks like it's targeted at naïve Producer types. That many raw samples would be forever to create.

It's not targeted at naive Producer types. The instruments aren't over-hyped synths like that, but acoustic instruments. It's targeted at workstation types, in the vein of XPand!2.

[SampleScience]

Or are there samples here that were re-recorded, or processed, from hardware workstations or other sample libraries?

I really don't want to interrupt.

But out of interest, is it legal to play any VST, including soundware, on loudspeakers and then capture the samples and sell them? German (..my..) copyright is like "well, if you create something new and freely", like the "clean room" requirement.

It would be illegal because you used the original recording of someone else.

[jancivil]

It's not targeted at naive Producer types. The instruments aren't over-hyped synths like that, but acoustic instruments. It's targeted at workstation types, in the vein of XPand!2.

Which I of course never heard of.
and which Google Shopping showed is available for $49. So every known thing in the world costing nothing and doable on your laptop is for a more sophisticated crowd than it looks like, eh?

"got a very high quality workstation sound to it."

Don't mind me, you know.

[jancivil]

is it legal to play any VST, including soundware, on loudspeakers and then capture the samples and sell them?

No.

[nineofkings]

It's not targeted at naive Producer types. The instruments aren't over-hyped synths like that, but acoustic instruments. It's targeted at workstation types, in the vein of XPand!2.

Which I of course never heard of.
and which Google Shopping showed is available for $49. So every known thing in the world costing nothing and doable on your laptop is for a more sophisticated crowd than it looks like, eh?

"got a very high quality workstation sound to it."

Don't mind me, you know.

Surely you've heard a song and thought "hey, those strings sound good, even if it's clearly not a real section." Not sure why this is a controversial idea when workstations have been around for decades. Some people are songwriters who might be after a certain sound and not have access to an instrument but not need a 10GB multisampled dulcimer. To call all of them "naive producer types" like they're all making EDM bangers out of aforementioned string sections and dulcimers seems misplaced is all

[jancivil]

Yeah, I'm mean like that though.

"Surely you've heard a song and thought "hey, those strings sound good, even if it's clearly not a real section."
Not really. I've thought a King Crimson Mellotron patch seemed better than I woulda thought, or something. Donno.

I'm reacting to the hype, comparing it with high-end samples libraries but then there's this equivocating 'it's a high quality workstation sound'. I'm ignorant, I didn't even know what that refers to.
And there's like 60 specific synth patches sampled on top of everything. He said 'EDM and film music', that was my impression of that. I'm old and cynical, I'm picturing Russian pirates here anyway.
That'd be controversial, EDM people thinking 'cinematic' not so much.

[Enoh7]

What does "workstation" that works in Kontakt sampler stand for? There are hardware workstations on the market for a many years such as Yamaha, Roland etc. All of those manufactures say that they have high quality workstation sound. For a last few years, libraries for Kontakt have become huge. From my experience, larger doesn't always mean better. If someone has a super computer (like Hans Zimmer does), he doesn't have problems with the thing that his cello section has a terabytes of samples, but what with those who want's to work on their laptop? People have been making music ten and more years ago with libraries, their private sounds (Thomas Bergersen, for example) whose size were less than today ones due to computers back then. In my honest opinion, their sound back then was great. I'm telling you from my personal experience. Following that, we can say similarly for the VST plug-ins. Why does Serban Ghenea do all his mixes with the good old Metric Halo Channel Strip? Small size, very little CPU consumption = low quality? Obviously, things do not go that way. Sampling is sort of art. In most cases, programmers make libraries that does not work such well. They have a lack of musicality to them, somewhere lack of flexibility and playability. To conclude, not all of us in every-day production business need tiny bells sampled on 127 velocity layers on 96 kHz and things like that. But, still we need that bell.

[EvilDragon]

You did not reply the question that was posed: are the samples from your library wholly new recordings, or resampled from other sources?

[jancivil]

Fine, we already get your disposition. What you actually said that I reacted to was:

No more long download of heavy 15GB piano,40GB violins,27GB woodwinds ...Quality is virtualy the same

Hype. People making actual orchestra music need that detail. No one's saying that people with no budget can't enjoy their hobby on their lappy. Here are just two different whole areas, be real.

Then you appear to be saying sampling these workstations is business as usual in 'the industry'.

[zircon]

Yeah, and if you did record every single instrument yourself or license them... Do you have a credits list we could see for who did the performances?

[Enoh7]

All I can say - we are very careful abouth the legality.Everything about Neo soundstation is 100% legal.About instruments quality, we didn´t say that our instruments are always better than commercial multigigabyte librarys. We just said that our instruments are high quality. Price is very low beacuse we are new on market, not beacuse we stole somebody´s samples. Neo soundstation 2, which is in preparation, will be game changer in business and our plan is to keep low price.

[krreed]

Hey Enoh7. Did you say Neo Soundstation 2? I was checking to see if you have come out with a 2nd version and stumbled upon this thread. I am the one who wrote you, "The accordion patches alone with keyswitches and various register swithes are worth
over $150.00 !!! I get enough of Neo Soundstation. ". I noticed that you used my comment on your website but I am sorry that I never got around to letting you know about the grammatical mistakes I made. I guess I was so excited when I emailed you. Besides the typo "swithes" I omitted the word "can't" when I wrote "I can get enough of Neo Soundstation." I can't get enough of Neo Soundstation would mean I want more of Neo Soundstation! Any native speaker of English would automatically read it "right" within the context. Maybe English is your second, third, or even fourth language. Anyway, I am so glad to hear that you are working on Neo Soundstation 2. I remember that one of the sounds that I had asked you to include if you were coming out with a 2nd version was the Hawaiian guitar or pedal steel guitar. The pedal steel guitar player who played for Marty Robins in the 60s lives in our city. Once he explained to me the difference between the two guitars. To me, they all sound the same! LOL I seldom play country or Hawaiian music, but when you do nothing works better than, right, the pedal steel or Hawaiian guitar. One pedal steel guitar VSTi I looked at is $199, and I am not ready to pay it for just one instrument that I will use only occasionally.

I love Neo Soundstation. All sounds are either excellent or good, and practically no waste, no non-sense sounds. Keep up the great work. I look forward to the new release.