KVR Audio

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:11 am

Oh f**k my balls have receded! That's horrifying!

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:43 am

Works better than most of the crap I've wasted money on.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:49 am

Sometimes stuff is actually buggy, and you have to report it, and then it doesn't get fixed.
Rockstar games is guilty of this, with Max Payne 3, where a large customer base could not use DirectX 10 or 11, and only 9. Yet no actual fix was given, even though some users could add start-up options, while many others could not start the app after including those startup options.
That is a valid bug, ignored and never fixed by a company.
Yet there are users who cause their own problems by keeping their computer in horrible shape.
Their house is dirty and disorganized, and so is their computer.
These people tend to cause their own bugs and broken apps.
There is also the issue of drivers, and hardware that can go wrong too.
So there are many directions and fault pathways. Not only one.

Btw...I hate Rockstar games for that issue, and their support is so terrible, even after 8 different posts back and forth about one simply issue, they are still unwilling to even discuss the actual issue.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:19 pm

Everything I need is running fine here.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:27 pm

Unaspected wrote:Everything I need is running fine here.

This leaves out information on whether or not you've "previously" had the experience of things not running fine.
But good for you for being part of a special minority.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:45 pm

mcnoone wrote:
Unaspected wrote:Everything I need is running fine here.
This leaves out information on whether or not you've "previously" had the experience of things not running fine.
But good for you for being part of a special minority.

I have experienced issues with some software but these days I always find solutions through searching Google.

Ahead of this, I tend to make sure my hardware and software is all compatible before making purchases. Making sure your system is solid is priority before installing applications, as you mention above. I also avoid automatic updates for similar reasons.

If an update doesn't improve efficiency, I don't update. And if it ain't broke...

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:59 pm

Presonus 1818 VSL needed some coaxing through a driver and firmware update, but seems like it's running good now.

They had me pulling my hair out coz- it said it was preparing the firmware update,
where in truth it had already done it- so I cancelled their cursor which could have bricked it for all I knew.
Gotta test a bit more but I think I have 128 samples @44.1k 16 bit with 10% CPU for simply performing on Alchemy with guitar which Is also being converted to MIDI- this 2SYN converter is pretty heavy because of the polling a stream into an event.

I have gear problems with things like monitor screen, monitor speakers,firewire sound cards, video cards,power supplies, guitar amp, USB hard drives, lcd displays- these things have required maintenance or replacement- stuff just wears out I guess. Some gear is semi-operable until I get it fixed like a mixer and Virus TI LCD

Software wise- eXT crashes my whole desky(very rarely), Orion is abandoned, Console won't scan plugins, FS crashes when disengaging ASIO, Cubase has silly windows handling- and even Autodesk has 1 bug I know of in MAX, and silly animation curves(not linear.. but I guess I'm doing that wrong)

However- I am happy with this and it's amazing I guess what technology does. It boils down to noodling on MIDI guitar atm-- but that's what I like. All these other people are helping me do it as best they can within some sort of imperfect engineering environ

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:03 pm

Unaspected wrote:
mcnoone wrote:
Unaspected wrote:Everything I need is running fine here.
This leaves out information on whether or not you've "previously" had the experience of things not running fine.
But good for you for being part of a special minority.
I have experienced issues with some software but these days I always find solutions through searching Google.

Ahead of this, I tend to make sure my hardware and software is all compatible before making purchases. Making sure your system is solid is priority before installing applications, as you mention above. I also avoid automatic updates for similar reasons.

If an update doesn't improve efficiency, I don't update. And if it ain't broke...

except you can't really check for something like small physical faults in a motherboard that only become effective when the humidity is high within a particular temperature range, giving rise to an intermittent fault that can never appear in an airconditioned service centre. Most likely that fault will be attributed to user error or drivers or software, but it is in fact a physical fault. Not having a faulty machine is a matter of being lucky enough to not get an incredibly difficult to diagnose hardware fault.
Software bugginess is another issue more tied into ideology and capitalist production. There is nothing natural about the way software is developed or proliferates - all that comes through a particular economic and ideological system. We could just as easily have had a development process that was much slower and more careful. Take Microsoft or Apple as well known examples - they generate massive profits, far greater than has historically been the norm. They could have poured most of their profits back into quality control
and still been incredibly profitable. But they didn't. There is nothing natural or inevitable about that - that behaviour arose within a particular economic and ideological context.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:07 pm

"so why did you throw away your gyro?"

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:12 pm

Yeh- my wife just got a brand new land rover époque, after a few weeks we started getting random dashboard warnings, loosing ABS, )self dipping lights wont go to main beam etc etc....car has gone back to be 'soak tested' and the guy who came out from land Rover basically said the problem was 'too much technology' with 'too many options' going in to the cars and now they have bugs, glitches, battery issues etc all the time...its one thing having a bug in your music software, or even your phone, but it starts to get worrying when your brand new car has bugs- a whole new meaning to 'crashing'!

Hooj · Post by **Hooj** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:53 pm

SLiC wrote:...the guy who came out from land Rover basically said the problem was 'too much technology' with 'too many options' going in to the cars and now they have bugs, glitches, battery issues etc all the time

that's mechanic speak for "we can't quite figure out what's wrong."

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:00 pm

Unaspected wrote:Everything I need is running fine here.

Always one of these jokers in the bunch

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:27 pm

mcnoone wrote:
Unaspected wrote:Everything I need is running fine here.
This leaves out information on whether or not you've "previously" had the experience of things not running fine.
But good for you for being part of a special minority.

I hope its not a special minority...

Aside from a few hard drives that bit the dust, I've had a rock solid experience with my main workflow.

I primarily use Live 9, which has been a stable beast. I'm on Sierra (MacOS) and this too has been stable once I got proper updates for everything (and I postponed an upgrade for a good while so I wouldn't have to be the one discovering all the issues that come with an OS upgrade).

The only issue I am dealing with now is finding an audio file manager that works the way I want without breaking the bank, and that just doesn't seem to exist...

There's Soundly for a monthly sub, which makes it one of the most expensive over time without the features of the Soundminer or Basehead.
Icedaudio's Audiofinder is lovely at its price, but just doesn't do what I want it to.
Reaper actually has a decent manager built-in, but its messy with all the different categories depending on how metadata was tagged.

Finder has some built in tagging, which I started using but for it to work well it means I can't use it with anything other than audio files.

That's it really...

Not too bad for now.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:55 am

elxsound wrote:I hope its not a special minority...

No it's not. All my standalone programs and plugins work fine... once I spend the time to RTFM and get them setup properly. Sometimes that means delaying OS upgrades, or buying a conversion utility.
To me, each program is a different 'way of thinking' about a task. If I like that developer's way of thinking, I will enjoy spending the time needed to make it work in my system. Also, I expect that most programs will need some time for tweaking, so I'm careful what I buy.

rifftrax · Post by **rifftrax** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:59 am

Here's the crux of the problem being described.

Machine Code (binary) <--- Assembler <--- Low-level procedural language (C, Basic, Pascal) <--- Higher-level scripting or OO language (C++, javascript, python, perl) <--- Top-level Library/API/framework (jquery, .net)

The number of steps a function or line of code might have to traverse to actually communicate with a piece of hardware in the modern world is often ungainly. There is a reason embedded system code written in C often is so rock solid while software running on a full-blown operating system can well, be so problematic. The problem is compounded by high-level language programmers having very little understanding of lower-level languages and sometimes vice-versa.

Is it me or everything works like shit??