OP-X Sounds Better

[wagtunes]

Wow. And people wonder why I hate this place.

[Zexila]

[digitalboytn]

Brilliant

[Elektronisch]

Wow. And people wonder why I hate this place.

No they dont wonder why you hate this place, its pretty obvious, but i bet people do wonder what on earth are you doing here if you hate this place

[wagtunes]

Wow. And people wonder why I hate this place.

No they dont wonder why you hate this place, its pretty obvious, but i bet people do wonder what on earth are you doing here if you hate this place

Because I refuse to let immature 5 year old brats run me out of here.

[Elektronisch]

Brilliant

X2 :-+

[fluffy_little_something]

As OP-X was originally based on an OB-X hardware synth the question is also if plugins based on other synths do sound "worse" or just "different". this is a major problem with most of the Synth X vs Synthh Y comparions.

Even if Peter at Sonicprojects reprogrammed a lot of patches fom different synths in his patches for OP-X/OP-X Pro II it does not mean that OP-X Pro II is also a proper emulation of all those.

For exampel with teh Jupiter 8 patches he invested a lot of time and work to get the patches sounding close and for several patches he even did seem to admit that he coudl not get them sound similar.
So what sounds like being a good emulation of a certain synth is mostly just hard work to get specific patches sound in a smilar way. A proper emulation is just another story.

Oposing to te Roland Jupiter-8 pluguin and Arturia Jupiter 8 which are quite close in terms of parameter ranges with the Jupiter 8 modules in Diva it is more difficult to properly reprogram certain Jupiter 8 presets due to teh differnt parameer ranges in Diva. Even if the Arturia Jupiter 8 i seem to be close you still need a lot of fine tuning to replicate certain patches of the Roland plugin or teh real hardware properly. FWIW i curently got all 3 Jupiter 8 based plugins and just talking about pure sound the Roland one seems to be best while there are still problems concerning CPU use and the GUI.

Concerning a Prophet 5 plugin Arturia Prophet V3 current seems to be the best option but i am looking forward to U-He Repro-5. Anyway even if the is would be the ultimate Prophet 5 emulation this does not mean it coudl also replace all other analog polysynth emulatons.
As the Prophet 5 "only" incuded a 24dB LPF it could not emualte plysynth that also include a BPF and/or HPF and also not one that also includes a 12dB LPF which usually sounds diffferent to a 24dB LPF too.
Not to forget that there are different basic types of LPFs like transistor ladder, diode ladder, sallen key, stae variable filter etc.
Not forget taht even filter of a similar type (e.g. transistor ladder) could still sound quite differenent...

To cover all of the existing filter sounds we would need something like Diva but with a bunch of additional more filter modules included.

I don't think this thread is about emulations. The Jupiter patches were just a fun add-on exercise intended to show that the OP-X is not limited to Oberheim sounds.

And frankly, within a song and after processing, it is hard to tell which sound comes from which synth, anyway. Same with hardware. It didn't really matter whether one used an Oberheim or SCI or Roland synth for a brass pad, synth bass or whatever. In the 80's, when those synths were big, it was more about the music as such. A quality synth delivered a quality sound. And I think that is what matters with software as well.

[wagtunes]

As OP-X was originally based on an OB-X hardware synth the question is also if plugins based on other synths do sound "worse" or just "different". this is a major problem with most of the Synth X vs Synthh Y comparions.

Even if Peter at Sonicprojects reprogrammed a lot of patches fom different synths in his patches for OP-X/OP-X Pro II it does not mean that OP-X Pro II is also a proper emulation of all those.

For exampel with teh Jupiter 8 patches he invested a lot of time and work to get the patches sounding close and for several patches he even did seem to admit that he coudl not get them sound similar.
So what sounds like being a good emulation of a certain synth is mostly just hard work to get specific patches sound in a smilar way. A proper emulation is just another story.

Oposing to te Roland Jupiter-8 pluguin and Arturia Jupiter 8 which are quite close in terms of parameter ranges with the Jupiter 8 modules in Diva it is more difficult to properly reprogram certain Jupiter 8 presets due to teh differnt parameer ranges in Diva. Even if the Arturia Jupiter 8 i seem to be close you still need a lot of fine tuning to replicate certain patches of the Roland plugin or teh real hardware properly. FWIW i curently got all 3 Jupiter 8 based plugins and just talking about pure sound the Roland one seems to be best while there are still problems concerning CPU use and the GUI.

Concerning a Prophet 5 plugin Arturia Prophet V3 current seems to be the best option but i am looking forward to U-He Repro-5. Anyway even if the is would be the ultimate Prophet 5 emulation this does not mean it coudl also replace all other analog polysynth emulatons.
As the Prophet 5 "only" incuded a 24dB LPF it could not emualte plysynth that also include a BPF and/or HPF and also not one that also includes a 12dB LPF which usually sounds diffferent to a 24dB LPF too.
Not to forget that there are different basic types of LPFs like transistor ladder, diode ladder, sallen key, stae variable filter etc.
Not forget taht even filter of a similar type (e.g. transistor ladder) could still sound quite differenent...

To cover all of the existing filter sounds we would need something like Diva but with a bunch of additional more filter modules included.

I don't think this thread is about emulations. The Jupiter patches were just a fun add-on exercise intended to show that the OP-X is not limited to Oberheim sounds.

And frankly, within a song and after processing, it is hard to tell which sound comes from which synth, anyway. Same with hardware. It didn't really matter whether one used an Oberheim or SCI or Roland synth for a brass pad, synth bass or whatever. In the 80's, when those synths were big, it was more about the music as such. A quality synth delivered a quality sound. And I think that is what matters with software as well.

Well, that's at least one thing we agree on. All this "X synth is better than Y synth" is just a lot of nit picking. Perfect example is Monark, Legend and Mini V3. They're all capable synths. The debate as to which is a more "accurate" Minimoog emulation is secondary to the music being made.

But then if we didn't argue about that, what would there be to talk about around here?

[nineofkings]

At a certain point the tool matters more for the maker than for the listener. I mean, who's playing the OPX here, you or some guy listening on soundcloud?

Nobody sits on a chair and cares about the sander the carpenter used. But having a nice sander helps him make better chairs anyway.

[layzer]

And all those attacking Wags, you must be really jealous of his music.

ABSOLUTELY.
I wish i could be "The Wags Dickinson".

CWTB.JPG

[Russell Grand]

Wow. And people wonder why I hate this place.

No they dont wonder why you hate this place, its pretty obvious, but i bet people do wonder what on earth are you doing here if you hate this place

Because I refuse to let immature 5 year old brats run me out of here.

[Zexila]

[AnX]

And all those attacking Wags, you must be really jealous of his music.

ABSOLUTELY.
I wish i could be "The Wags Dickinson".

If you added a tamb to your tracks, it would be the most musical part of the composition.

[layzer]

And all those attacking Wags, you must be really jealous of his music.

ABSOLUTELY.
I wish i could be "The Wags Dickinson".

If you added a tamb to your tracks, it would be the most musical part of the composition.

and only someone that listens to my music would know this.
and you probably listen to it night and day 24-7,
my biggest fan. haha, you are such a fail... got back to
listening to my music.

[wagtunes]

For those of you making absolutely inappropriate posts, ask Brainzister if you should be messing with me.

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