DAW Propaganda.....is it really a psychological affliction?

[CTStump]

Yup. Which is the white elephant in the room.

I know it may never change but if you drive by an accident wouldn't you look? I started this thread here as a means for discussion really not to change minds or additudes. I guess we should calmly go by and blow it off it's just the interwebz, nothing to see here.

Exactly. It has nothing to do with any particular product of company, it's human nature, the idea that "...if someone doesn't like the choice I made I must argue and prove them wrong."

Granted, KVR does appear one of the few places where it never even occurs to some people that they may all right, that when Joe says X sucks for him, he's telling the truth, and when Jim says X works great for him, he's also telling the truth... that those things are not mutally exclusive.

The problem appears to be people who simply can't accept the idea that their personal reality is not a universal reality, so they spend years arguing about it. If Cubase sucks for me it must suck everybody and I will beat that dead horse for five years

True there is that reality. But in the situation presented at the moment a lot of the information being fed to the affected is suspect and a little self serving also the vultures are circling, hence why I'm wondering what others may thinking about it.

Once again your insight keeps showing. ...even though you get a thrashing sometimes Lawrence.

[melomood]

I'm switching to Nonar by Takewalk and I'm never looking back

[jonljacobi]

I think some of the discussion is born of frustration, which we all experience with every DAW in some way or another. "If it only did this!" Some of it is because of shape consciousness, which we all have. "I don't like the look". Apple has made untold billions catering to the latter.

Then there are just some folks who like to stir the pot or take their frustration out on someone. This to me is quite unfortunate as it probably turns off the developers who then tune out and won't spot the good ideas where they occur.

And quite possibly, like me, you're killing time when you actually should start working.

[THE INTRANCER]

Back in the 1990's I had no internet and produced music with Octamed Sound Studio on an Amiga 1200..., just me and the software for the desire and love to make it, in isolation and a million miles away from anyone else and idiot fanboi's on forums...where did it all go wrong humm...

[LawrenceF]

...in the situation presented at the moment a lot of the information being fed to the affected is suspect and a little self serving ...

Pretty much. That should be the literal dictionary definition of the Internet as it's ... extremely prevalent ... all across the net on just about any subject matter... so maybe Webster's should say...

The Internet
: a system that connects computers throughout the world
: highly susceptible to suspect and self serving information

Honestly, anyone on the net who's not expecting to see x% of just plain bad information or uninformed opinions or just some completely made up out of thin air "facts", obviously just doesn't yet realize where they are.

See Facebook where alternate realities are par for the course.

Honestly - not joking at all in any way - The Internet is (for those who choose to use it for that) the single greatest and most effective propaganda vehicle in the history of mankind. Just be thankful that it didn't exist when Goebbels was alive.

[dzilizzi]

Being used to doing something one way, then trying a different piece of software, where that thing is called something else, and is not where you might expect to see it...can be pretty frustrating when you're starting out. So there's that aspect, as well.

This was/continues to be my biggest problem with Cubase. I like how it looks. I LOVE the chord track. But is it so frustrating to use because they call things by different names than I am used to coming from Sonar, ProTools and Reason. I read manuals. You can't find it in the manual if you don't know what to call it.

[jonljacobi]

"Honestly - not joking at all in any way - The Internet is (for those who choose to use it for that) the single greatest and most effective propaganda vehicle in the history of mankind. Just be thankful that it didn't exist when Goebbels was alive. "

Yeah verily. Everything and nothing good will come from this...

[CTStump]

...in the situation presented at the moment a lot of the information being fed to the affected is suspect and a little self serving ...

Pretty much. That should be the literal dictionary definition of the Internet as it's ... extremely prevalent ... all across the net on just about any subject matter... so maybe Webster's should say...

The Internet
: a system that connects computers throughout the world
: highly susceptible to suspect and self serving information

Honestly, anyone on the net who's not expecting to see x% of just plain bad information or uninformed opinions or just some completely made up out of thin air "facts", obviously just doesn't yet realize where they are.

See Facebook where alternate realities are par for the course.

Honestly - not joking at all in any way - The Internet is (for those who choose to use it for that) the single greatest and most effective propaganda vehicle in the history of mankind. Just be thankful that it didn't exist when Goebbels was alive.

I know that's the case being as there is no way to edit and control the information being posted on the web. The first amendment to the Nth degree. Which the authors of the constitution could never forsee. I think that is a good thing really if one is intelligent enough to digest the "Propaganda" being fed to them and not accept all they read without further fact finding or common sense or even a sense of humor.

Why not ask why in this situation?(here comes another analogy) if one is providing first aid for a laceration on the left arm why apply a splint to his right leg because it's the best splint in your medical bag. My question though not as extreme as that example is more about edicate not whether this or that should be expected, shouldn't the situation be taken into account.

I know that here there is open debate so the ethos is correct as far as choices. A company going down happens all the time leaving customers in the lurch but in this instance maybe an examination may shed light on those participating to discuss whether the see or not see the need to carry on or close the discussion.

Being as this is the internet anyone wanting to write can write anything they want, whether anyone else reads it or believes it is really up to them.

[Jace-BeOS]

Dave?

Dave's not here...

[Jace-BeOS]

...and:

I guess this kinda stupid to ask but is it more an sports analogy like my team is better than your team even if my team has lost mentality more than what works for me may not work for you but it may be worth a try to find out.

Holy cow, this sentence. Look into comma usage and avoiding fused sentences, please.

[Jace-BeOS]

Every post is an implied opinion, take it or leave it. However the fact is it is my opinion.

Actually a lot of people confuse the fact of their opinion when there is actually a non-subjective fact in contradiction already. The mix of objective data vs subjective opinion gets munged together.

Agreed. I hate it when people think that framing their claims as "opinion" is some kind of way out of being wrong. No, i don't need to respect an opinion about an objectively false claim. When their "opinion" is a claim which is demonstrably false, on an objective issue... no, dude, the "that's just your opinion man" meme doesn't excuse you from being wrong.

[CTStump]

Holy cow, this sentence. Look into comma usage and avoiding fused sentences, please.

Dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,, ,,,.. Do you know how small the comma key on my smart, stupid phone is?

Wouldn't matter anyway for these ole fat fingers.

I'm not on a frigging full sized keyboard.

[jancivil]

I haven't used REAPER because I don't like the idea of a system operating a cock. Especially if it's mine.

I'm hoping that COCKOS is just a breakfast cereal for pervs he sells independently of REAPER. But if so it all kind of points to something that will eventually kill you.

[Jace-BeOS]

Holy cow, this sentence. Look into comma usage and avoiding fused sentences, please.

Dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,, ,,,.. Do you know how small the comma key on my smart, stupid phone is?

Wouldn't matter anyway for these ole fat fingers.

I'm not on a frigging full sized keyboard.

You used punctuation just fine here

[SJ_Digriz]

Sometimes but not always
I comma for dramatic pause.

SometimesImdrunkandthosedamnlittlesymbolsarehardasshittofindsoisayfuckitandletthestreamofconsiousnessout