Roland JV-1080 finally, as virtual instrument!

[chk071]

I'm a bit confused about the sound generation of this instrument. Is this a pure rompler, or does it also do VA?

[Frantz]

I have a JV-2080 in good working order. I also have a JD-800 in the attic. I never think about using them because they are dated romplers. Modern soft synths + Kontakt sample libraries wipe the floor with them.

Why do people want to go back to 90s Rompler Hell when we have so many superior synths available now?

[chk071]

Ok, a rompler it is then. Thanks.

[Frantz]

I'm a bit confused about the sound generation of this instrument. Is this a pure rompler, or does it also do VA?

It is pure rompler but it is fairly programmable with (digital) filters and envelopes.

[chk071]

Thanks dude. Frankly, the programming inside the plugin looks a bit quixotic. Not digging that too much.

[Ingonator]

Ok, a rompler it is then. Thanks.

The 10 "structues" in the common edit page allow more complex routings of two of the 4 tones.
That includes e.g. having two multimode filters in series, adding a ringmod and/or a "booster".
With the ramaining 2 Tones you could use a different one of the 10 structures to route those 2 Tones.
Only in the first structure the two Tones really act as independent layers while in others they offer certain different routings beteeen the Tones.

Besides that the synth engine of the JV-1080 plugin is quite complex and has several advanced features from the successors like XV-5080 and also Fantom X (the included FXs). I had posted some details here and in the Roland Cloud thread.

Anyway the advanced features are not used in the factory presets as those are presets from teh JV-1080 (banks A to C) and JV-2080 (bank D).
To explore teh advanced features you would have to create your own patches from scratch or modify existing presets.

[chk071]

Thanks Ingo. Well, even though i don't need this, i think Roland is doing a nice job making all these synths available to their Cloud clients. Now, if Roland could please emulate the JP-8k, things might get really interesting for me. I know, many may argue that the synth is dated, and, quite frankly, they're probably right with that, but, if they want to live up their legacy, that synths just can't be missing, as it really was on gazillions of records in the 90's/2000's, and it would be a shame if it was missing. And, i quite like the general tone of it, judging from sound demos.

[D-Fusion]

I have a JV-2080 in good working order. I also have a JD-800 in the attic. I never think about using them because they are dated romplers. Modern soft synths + Kontakt sample libraries wipe the floor with them.

Why do people want to go back to 90s Rompler Hell when we have so many superior synths available now?

When they want to remake or make tunes with the sound of that era or are coverbands.
They aren't that crappy just because the technology has gotten better.
Once they where premium products and people actually made music with them you know

[Ingonator]

Thanks Ingo. Well, even though i don't need this, i think Roland is doing a nice job making all these synths available to their Cloud clients. Now, if Roland could please emulate the JP-8k, things might get really interesting for me. I know, many may argue that the synth is dated, and, quite frankly, they're probably right with that, but, if they want to live up their legacy, that synths just can't be missing, as it really was on gazillions of records in the 90's/2000's, and it would be a shame if it was missing. And, i quite like the general tone of it, judging from sound demos.

I would like to see the JP-8000 too. So far Diva is the only synth that has the full Osc section with all Osc waveshapes of the JP-8000. All others that claim to emulate the JP-8000 only include the Supersaw of it.

FWIW the System-8 plugin included with Roland Cloud seems includes a Supersaw waveshape and overall this seems to be a kind of modern JP-8000 synth. The Supersaw there is the "SAW 2" waveshape with the "Color" knob to add more detune to the multiple Saws. With the "Variation" button in the main Oscs you get access to even more waveshapes.

The System-8 plugin is the similar to the default synth in the System-8 hardware which is not really an emulation of anything but a synth on it's own.

[bill45]

when your wife smashes your synth, you know she's a bitch.

you wanna fight bitch, come at me, but don't touch my fuggin synth!

And that’s the thing. It would probably cost as much to replace the display as to replace the whole thing. 1080s just aren’t worth much anymore.

More actually.Fantaom XR's are notorious for bad displays.$250-$320,just for the part

[BMoore]

I wish multitimbral and general midi compability became a part of the audio world vocabulary again.

[Frantz]

I wish multitimbral and general midi compability became a part of the audio world vocabulary again.

Yes, every modern synth should have these sounds: Helicopter, Applause, and Gunshot.

[Ingonator]

I wish multitimbral and general midi compability became a part of the audio world vocabulary again.

Roland Cloud also offers the Sound Canvas plugin which is multitimbral and offers GM, GM2 and GS compatibility.
You can route multiple MIDI tracks to one of the 16 parts in the Sound Canvas plugin. I have not found multiple audio outs for it yet but for each part you have a quite big selection of built-in FXs comparable and mostly even similar to those in the JV-1080 plugin and other Roland ROmplers.

Besides that if you need multiple instances of the JV-1080 plugin this is no problem with the plugin...
The CPU use of teh JV-1080 plugin (and also the D-50 plugin) is much lower than with the analog modeled plugins.

[mholloway]

I have a JV-2080 in good working order. I also have a JD-800 in the attic. I never think about using them because they are dated romplers. Modern soft synths + Kontakt sample libraries wipe the floor with them.

Why do people want to go back to 90s Rompler Hell when we have so many superior synths available now?

Open your dictionary and look up 'Nostalgia,' then read or book or two about its psychological ramifications.

Also, why assume that your opinion of their quality should = everybody else's opinion of them? Classic solipsism, c'mon man.

Finally, many beloved genres of music were made with very specific models of instrumentation. Interest in those genres will fuel interest in the tools responsible for the genre. Would you tell somebody who wanted to make chiptunes that their chip synth is an out-dated relic of the past and if they only had Omnisphere they'd be better off? Of course not. We choose the tools based on the things we want to say. Sometimes that means using primitive tools.

[Ingonator]

Sometimes that means using primitive tools.

So do you think that the JV-1080 plugin is "primitive tool"? Actually it is quite far from that...