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opiadream · Post by **opiadream** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:28 pm

deastman wrote: The Beatles are really just a sad immitation of Elvis and Chuck Berry.

oh yea
I've always thought the beatles sound so much like elvis
I can't even listen to sgt pepper

pricer · Post by **pricer** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:12 pm

Personally, the Kate Bush influence ceased after Under The Pink, which is when she finished with that producer and moved on to producing more herself. The fact that her last two or so albums have been self-produced and show little resemblance to Kate Bush, as well as no Kate Bush songs being on her covers album, show that maybe it was the initial producers plan for these comparisons to be made. Since the Van Helden remix, her vocal production has changed considerably, going away from natural compression to a tight upfront pop production format, which again highlights a shift from the 2 x LA-2A Kate Bush comparisons.

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:44 pm

there is one very sad fact borne out by this thread.

...that people need advice as to what music to like.

pathetic indeed.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:46 pm

Karsten Viese · Post by **Karsten Viese** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:52 am

@ Jaeson_Merrill

You are aboslutely right.
Thats the same reason hitlists and charts are made.

So people with no "real" interest in music knows what to buy to stay hip.

Karsten Viese · Post by **Karsten Viese** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:53 am

Yay, my first doublepost

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:21 am

yup, right on.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:12 pm

Make that *2* points from this thread--

1. The one you made
2. That in a music opinion thread, somebody will inevitably need to make flip remarks to appear more clever and 'in the know' than those who they perceive to be "the masses".

Regarding Nick Cave-- brilliant artist. I was thrilled when he joined the Anti- roster, along with Daniel Lanois, Muggs, Tom Waits, and other greats.

Greg

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:52 am

One more thought... I was just listening to the "Ladies of the Canyon" album again, and was reminded that Kate Bush is so obviously stealing from Joni Mitchell

I guess I'll have to burn my KB CDs now...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:07 am

Jaeson_Merrill wrote:there is one very sad fact borne out by this thread....that people need advice as to what music to like.

pathetic indeed.

Not as sad as completely and utterly missing the point. I like what I like and up till recently I hadn't liked Tori Amos but then I heard this one song I was blown away by which made me think maybe I haven't done her justice. So I thought the best and perhaps fairest way to learn more about her material would be to ask her fans, of whom their appear to be many, what they feel are her best songs so I can listen to them and make up my own mind from a more informed perspective. It's called trying to keep an open mind, it's not about getting advice re what to like.

Karsten Viese · Post by **Karsten Viese** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:22 am

So I thought the best and perhaps fairest way to learn more about her material would be to ask her fans

Not really. The fairest way would be to buy her CD's and judge for yourself.
Why does it matter what fans think of her.
Obviously they are going to like which you dont as a starting point. So there inst really much we can do to convince you (not that we want to) is there?

Just go buy a CD.

P.T. · Post by **P.T.** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:45 am

I like the "Tales of a Librarian" compilation. It's a good sampler.

Zoing · Post by **Zoing** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:43 am

I was a besotted teenager when Kate Bush came out (giving me perhaps my only tatse of empathy with girls who get obsessed with male rock stars).

I haven't heard a whole lot of Tori Amos, (even though I bought a 5 song CD single of 'Winter' at a second-hand shop last week, my first TA purchase) but what I've heard sounds a bit more lush and ballady than KB.

Has she done anything as spooky as 'the Dreaming' (KB's best in my opinion) or that concept side of the 'Hounds of Love' record?

I don't mean that sounds like that, but that is kind of 'out there' and uncommercial like that???

And Lunch Money, I totally agreed with your post, back on page one. Very eloquent.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:21 pm

Karsten Viese wrote:
So I thought the best and perhaps fairest way to learn more about her material would be to ask her fans
Not really. The fairest way would be to buy her CD's and judge for yourself.
Why does it matter what fans think of her.
Obviously they are going to like which you dont as a starting point. So there inst really much we can do to convince you (not that we want to) is there?

Just go buy a CD.

Sounds like an expensive way of finding out if you like someone's music. I buy CD's that I know I'm going to want to keep - I don't have money to throw away so recommendations from her fans gives me a place to start. I'm willing to trust the opinions of those who know her music well to give me enough of an overview to be going on with - if I found I liked a whole load then I would buy a CD.

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:32 pm

thats why theres mp3 downloads and friends to borrow cds from (both illegal>? maybe one day)

test it out, borrow a friends, download an mp3, if you likee, get the cd.

i try and have an open mind, which is why i dont need the opinions of others to decide what music i should or shouldnt like because of some status quo or supposed "Style" copping".

Tori Amos advice