Free Jun-6 Chorus plugin from Arturia
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- KVRAF
- 1756 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands
+1
There's a noise on/off button on the Hornet Chorus60, but the level is very low, so hardly noticable unfortunately.
- KVRAF
- 25050 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
This. Any six year old of average intelligence would understand that. And you never see people complaining that they have to register in order to use/purchase a paid-for plugin. Yet when it's free, the sense of entitlement starts going through the roof. To quote Drumpf: "awful people"jamcat wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:17 am You need the ASC. That is how you authorize the plugin.
Jun-6 Chorus is not a free plugin. It is only free for right now, as a limited time special gift. They will almost certainly be selling it at some point. They wouldn't be able to do that with a plugin they gave away without any copy protection.
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- KVRist
- 270 posts since 5 Sep, 2011
https://soundcloud.com/user-454342554/1 ... ImE9u4tMwIFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:05 amAliasing? Whatever you're hearing probably isn't aliasing. Or Chorus Jun-6 isn't the cause of it. The signal is pretty bandlimited, which you'd expect in a BBD chorus.Lucastyle wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:06 am Hate to be that one that brings this but this chorus aliases way too much, Is this normal behavior?
I was excited to compare this to the TAL chorus to see if it was better but the aliasing its just to much, I hate myself for installing the Arturia Software Center just for this.![]()
This surely sounds like aliasing
But I guess aliasing is not that important or else why would all the best developers like U-he, Cytomic, Melda and many others include and make sure the is options to minimize those byproducts.
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- KVRAF
- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Definitely some aliasing.
Lucastyle wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:17 pmhttps://soundcloud.com/user-454342554/1 ... ImE9u4tMwIFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:05 amAliasing? Whatever you're hearing probably isn't aliasing. Or Chorus Jun-6 isn't the cause of it. The signal is pretty bandlimited, which you'd expect in a BBD chorus.Lucastyle wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:06 am Hate to be that one that brings this but this chorus aliases way too much, Is this normal behavior?
I was excited to compare this to the TAL chorus to see if it was better but the aliasing its just to much, I hate myself for installing the Arturia Software Center just for this.![]()
This surely sounds like aliasing
But I guess aliasing is not that important or else why would all the best developers like U-he, Cytomic, Melda and many others include and make sure the is options to minimize those byproducts.
- KVRAF
- 19908 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
It's easy to understand the difference between "free" and "free with conditions" and the difference between registering for a plugin and having to install a separate App that runs as a background process when the plugin is in use.jens wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:15 am This. Any six year old of average intelligence would understand that. And you never see people complaining that they have to register in order to use/purchase a paid-for plugin. Yet when it's free, the sense of entitlement starts going through the roof. To quote Drumpf: "awful people"
This Chorus allows a perfect example of the two. With the Tal Chorus LX you simply download and install. With the Arturia Jun-6 Chorus you register an account, download their copy protection app, install and authorize.
One is a truly altruistic gesture the latter a gesture with ulterior motives. The motives being to get your e-mail for advertising purposes and to get their copy protection software on your system so it removes any reason for you not to buy their software in the future. "I'd buy Arturia's Jupiter plugin but I don't want to install the ASC". Well it's already installed so there goes your reason not to purchase.
Then when it comes to choosing a Chorus plugin for use in your project do you load the one that requires a running background process to function or one that doesn't? Of course the sound of the plugin will dictate which one you prefer but with all things being equal or near equal with the sound the choice is pretty obvious.
When it comes to purchasing a Jupiter emulation will you buy the Tal version that does not require any extra bloat or the Arturia version that does ? Again sound, features, functions, and workflow will dictate your decision but if all things are equal then again the decision is pretty clear.
As I said before I have the ASC installed and am grateful for Arturia's gesture of setting this Chorus plugin free for a limited time but I also understand why they are doing it. I'm ok with it, some other people may not be.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
Perfectly put.Teksonik wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:20 pmIt's easy to understand the difference between "free" and "free with conditions" and the difference between registering for a plugin and having to install a separate App that runs as a background process when the plugin is in use.jens wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:15 am This. Any six year old of average intelligence would understand that. And you never see people complaining that they have to register in order to use/purchase a paid-for plugin. Yet when it's free, the sense of entitlement starts going through the roof. To quote Drumpf: "awful people"
This Chorus allows a perfect example of the two. With the Tal Chorus LX you simply download and install. With the Arturia Jun-6 Chorus you register an account, download their copy protection app, install and authorize.
One is a truly altruistic gesture the latter a gesture with ulterior motives. The motives being to get your e-mail for advertising purposes and to get their copy protection software on your system so it removes any reason for you not to buy their software in the future. "I'd buy Arturia's Jupiter plugin but I don't want to install the ASC". Well it's already installed so there goes your reason not to purchase.
Then when it comes to choosing a Chorus plugin for use in your project do you load the one that requires a running background process to function or one that doesn't? Of course the sound of the plugin will dictate which one you prefer but with all things being equal or near equal with the sound the choice is pretty obvious.
When it comes to purchasing a Jupiter emulation will you buy the Tal version that does not require any extra bloat or the Arturia version that does ? Again sound, features, functions, and workflow will dictate your decision but if all things are equal then again the decision is pretty clear.
As I said before I have the ASC installed and am grateful for Arturia's gesture of setting this Chorus plugin free for a limited time but I also understand why they are doing it. I'm ok with it, some other people may not be.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 19908 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Yes I tried it, didn't work. When loaded the plugin asks you to login and then just sits spinning while I assume it's looking for the ASC program.AnX wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:01 am can you uninstall the app and still use the plugin?
anyone tried it?
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRian
- 715 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
yeah...that's true, tried it myself. usually I don't mind these programs running/being installed but it's the first time I'm seeing that uninstalling an installer/license manager makes the plugins stop working and the DAW (Reaper) to stop responding as the plugins go into endless loop.
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Maybe because you didn't uninstall the other ones?nirm123 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:37 pm yeah...that's true, tried it myself. usually I don't mind these programs running/being installed but it's the first time I'm seeing that uninstalling an installer/license manager makes the plugins stop working and the DAW (Reaper) to stop responding as the plugins go into endless loop.
Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRist
- 294 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
This is much better than the Tal free version. Does so much more.
Already had their manager installed from the free plate verb they gave out so it was an easy process. I think I'll use this way more than that verb.
Already had their manager installed from the free plate verb they gave out so it was an easy process. I think I'll use this way more than that verb.
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
No problem here with installation/authorization with the ASC.
Definitely a good free gift from Arturia and I will find a usage for it! The chorus also works well on mono sounds like bass.
I tried this here with Mode I (bypassed the first bars).
Only Bass
...and all together with the enabled chorus on the bass (only 40s)
All
Definitely a good free gift from Arturia and I will find a usage for it! The chorus also works well on mono sounds like bass.
I tried this here with Mode I (bypassed the first bars).
Only Bass
...and all together with the enabled chorus on the bass (only 40s)
All
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- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
oh well, a good enough reason to pass
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- KVRAF
- 2066 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
I did some tests on Windows 10.
Loading the Chorus plugin and recent giveaways (such as REV PLATE) trigger the same behavior. They run ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe in C:\Program Files (x86)\Arturia\Arturia Software Center, which connects via internet to arturia.com. I didn't bother looking at the packets to see what it was sending.
Disabling ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe renders the plugins unauthorized. Blocking ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe from accessing the internet does not seem to have adverse affects for now (other than keeping ASC offline as well). It's possible the activation is good for a certain amount of time and will expire. I'm going to leave it blocked and see if this is the case.
In any event, ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe stays in memory perpetually. Removing a plugin or closing the DAW makes no difference. You need to kill the process manually.
Loading the Chorus plugin and recent giveaways (such as REV PLATE) trigger the same behavior. They run ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe in C:\Program Files (x86)\Arturia\Arturia Software Center, which connects via internet to arturia.com. I didn't bother looking at the packets to see what it was sending.
Disabling ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe renders the plugins unauthorized. Blocking ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe from accessing the internet does not seem to have adverse affects for now (other than keeping ASC offline as well). It's possible the activation is good for a certain amount of time and will expire. I'm going to leave it blocked and see if this is the case.
In any event, ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe stays in memory perpetually. Removing a plugin or closing the DAW makes no difference. You need to kill the process manually.
