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- 9081 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.
What's the point of this?
Does the most popular DAW get to marry the bachelor?
Does the most popular DAW get to marry the bachelor?
Don't feed the gators,y'all
https://m.soundcloud.com/tonedeadj
https://m.soundcloud.com/tonedeadj
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- KVRAF
- 16776 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Bitwig says eeewwwwwww, glad I'm not popular! Cubase is ready to do anything to seem young again. Reason's ok with it too, as long as the bachelor is loaded. Live is going to leave him at the alter and run off to an all night warehouse party with DP.melomood wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:21 pm What's the point of this?
Does the most popular DAW get to marry the bachelor?
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- 9081 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8058 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
I can't argue with you on this because A: your opinion is valid but filled with as many holes as mine, for the same reasons. For instance statistics aren't based on averages, i.e. the average FL Studio user, that average is only a portion, not that statistically valid. B: You've already made up your mind about it.jens wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:50 pmYes, the thing with statistics however also it that in order to be valid, they need to measure indeed exactly what you actually seek to measure.machinesworking wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:20 am
The thing is about statistics though, the higher the number the more evened out the randomness becomes.
What makes you think that? DAW choice is not random. And hence I assume there are significant systematic differences between (say) the average ProTools user and the average FL user.As a Reaper user I don't you're any less likely to be on Facebook, or not on FB, than any other DAW user. Or to put it another way, the amount of boomers, zooomers, and anti FB people is about the same as it would be for other DAWs. Even FL Studio is so old that there are all ages and types using it.
And these differences could also lead to quite different habits in regards to the useage of social media. But without scientific data in regards to this, you can only guess.
And due to the lack of this data the statistics mentioned here in this thread are worth exactly zero - i.e. they carry no valid information whatsoever.
One thing though, it's a lot more valid to use the average social media user than the average Music Tech Magazine user, since one is somewhat geographically bound, and tied to a certain music demographic compared to Facebook.
C: Plus this is for fun, it's not going to be 100% accurate, but I think it's damn near accurate, it goes with my bias on it anyway, from the top five to the middle to the end. If it's not accurate it's close.
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Reddit, only counting the largest groups:
Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Renoise - 3.4k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members
Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Renoise - 3.4k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members
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- KVRAF
- 25032 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes, that is exactly what I meant when I wrote:machinesworking wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 12:08 amI can't argue with you on this because A: your opinion is valid but filled with as many holes as mine, for the same reasons.jens wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:50 pmYes, the thing with statistics however also it that in order to be valid, they need to measure indeed exactly what you actually seek to measure.machinesworking wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:20 am
The thing is about statistics though, the higher the number the more evened out the randomness becomes.
What makes you think that? DAW choice is not random. And hence I assume there are significant systematic differences between (say) the average ProTools user and the average FL user.As a Reaper user I don't you're any less likely to be on Facebook, or not on FB, than any other DAW user. Or to put it another way, the amount of boomers, zooomers, and anti FB people is about the same as it would be for other DAWs. Even FL Studio is so old that there are all ages and types using it.
And these differences could also lead to quite different habits in regards to the useage of social media. But without scientific data in regards to this, you can only guess.
And due to the lack of this data the statistics mentioned here in this thread are worth exactly zero - i.e. they carry no valid information whatsoever.
"But without scientific data in regards to this, you can only guess."
>>You<< in this case refers to anyone (i.e. you, me or anybody else) having any sort of theory that is not backed up by valid data - which neither yours nor mine is.
You are completely mistaken here. Statistics are either about census, which is often not possible to obtain the data for - and it certainly isn't here - or it is about the "average". There are three different common variables that are called "average" (with three different methods to calculate them):For instance statistics aren't based on averages, i.e. the average FL Studio user, that average is only a portion, not that statistically valid. B: You've already made up your mind about it.
https://www.statisticshowto.com/probabi ... dian-mode/
You seek mean average - when you wrote:
"The thing is about statistics though, the higher the number the more evened out the randomness becomes.",
you referred to the fact that if you have a big enough number of samples, you can use them to calculate the mean of a gaussian distribution, which evens out the statistical dispersion.
One thing though, it's a lot more valid to use the average social media user than the average Music Tech Magazine user, since one is somewhat geographically bound, and tied to a certain music demographic compared to Facebook.
C: Plus this is for fun, it's not going to be 100% accurate, but I think it's damn near accurate, it goes with my bias on it anyway, from the top five to the middle to the end. If it's not accurate it's close.
None of these methods are valid, as you are only guessing - and guesses do not contain any information outside stating the personal improvable opinion of somebody - when you say "damn near accurate" that is another guess. It is valid to say that you guess this, however it is not valid to infer anything from it.
For me it is only fun if it is somewhat smart, insightful and relevant or at least highly entertaining for some other reason. And the latter for me is to correct your false assumptions and conclusions here.
- addled muppet weed
- 111301 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
v1o wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:34 am Reddit, only counting the largest groups:
Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members
and 3 hosts i use, still don't make the list!!!
im getting more professional by the day!!!
- KVRAF
- 2473 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
For DP, the only real resource is MOTUnation.com. I know a lot of people criticize it, but I've always found then to be knowledgeable and more importantly, helpful. They just don't tolerate the kinds of shenanigans one finds here or on GS.
I'm not sure if there's a way to discover how many people are active members, or at least are signed up.
I'm not sure if there's a way to discover how many people are active members, or at least are signed up.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
syntonica wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:27 pm For DP, the only real resource is MOTUnation.com. I know a lot of people criticize it, but I've always found then to be knowledgeable and more importantly, helpful. They just don't tolerate the kinds of shenanigans one finds here or on GS.
I'm not sure if there's a way to discover how many people are active members, or at least are signed up.
Motunation
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- addled muppet weed
- 111301 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
still no mention of my 3.v1o wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 2:36 pm Feel sorry for Mixbus, Podium, N-track, MuTools, Multitrack Studio and Acoustica Mixcraft. For not gaining traction after all these years.
im beginning to wonder if mine even exist?
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Seems about right to me.
- KVRAF
- 5383 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I need to switch to a more popular DAW to improve my self esteem and social network.
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 28 Dec, 2007
Dubturbo - 1 memberv1o wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:34 am Reddit, only counting the largest groups:
Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Renoise - 3.4k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members
https://www.reddit.com/r/DUBturbo/