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What's the point of this?

Does the most popular DAW get to marry the bachelor?
Don't feed the gators,y'all
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melomood wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:21 pm What's the point of this?

Does the most popular DAW get to marry the bachelor?
Bitwig says eeewwwwwww, glad I'm not popular! Cubase is ready to do anything to seem young again. Reason's ok with it too, as long as the bachelor is loaded. Live is going to leave him at the alter and run off to an all night warehouse party with DP.

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:hihi:
Don't feed the gators,y'all
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jens wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:50 pm
machinesworking wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:20 am
The thing is about statistics though, the higher the number the more evened out the randomness becomes.
Yes, the thing with statistics however also it that in order to be valid, they need to measure indeed exactly what you actually seek to measure.

As a Reaper user I don't you're any less likely to be on Facebook, or not on FB, than any other DAW user. Or to put it another way, the amount of boomers, zooomers, and anti FB people is about the same as it would be for other DAWs. Even FL Studio is so old that there are all ages and types using it.
What makes you think that? DAW choice is not random. And hence I assume there are significant systematic differences between (say) the average ProTools user and the average FL user.
And these differences could also lead to quite different habits in regards to the useage of social media. But without scientific data in regards to this, you can only guess.
And due to the lack of this data the statistics mentioned here in this thread are worth exactly zero - i.e. they carry no valid information whatsoever.
I can't argue with you on this because A: your opinion is valid but filled with as many holes as mine, for the same reasons. For instance statistics aren't based on averages, i.e. the average FL Studio user, that average is only a portion, not that statistically valid. B: You've already made up your mind about it.

One thing though, it's a lot more valid to use the average social media user than the average Music Tech Magazine user, since one is somewhat geographically bound, and tied to a certain music demographic compared to Facebook.

C: Plus this is for fun, it's not going to be 100% accurate, but I think it's damn near accurate, it goes with my bias on it anyway, from the top five to the middle to the end. If it's not accurate it's close.

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Reddit, only counting the largest groups:

Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Renoise - 3.4k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members
Last edited by v1o on Sat May 29, 2021 2:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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machinesworking wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 12:08 am
jens wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:50 pm
machinesworking wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:20 am
The thing is about statistics though, the higher the number the more evened out the randomness becomes.
Yes, the thing with statistics however also it that in order to be valid, they need to measure indeed exactly what you actually seek to measure.

As a Reaper user I don't you're any less likely to be on Facebook, or not on FB, than any other DAW user. Or to put it another way, the amount of boomers, zooomers, and anti FB people is about the same as it would be for other DAWs. Even FL Studio is so old that there are all ages and types using it.
What makes you think that? DAW choice is not random. And hence I assume there are significant systematic differences between (say) the average ProTools user and the average FL user.
And these differences could also lead to quite different habits in regards to the useage of social media. But without scientific data in regards to this, you can only guess.
And due to the lack of this data the statistics mentioned here in this thread are worth exactly zero - i.e. they carry no valid information whatsoever.
I can't argue with you on this because A: your opinion is valid but filled with as many holes as mine, for the same reasons.
Yes, that is exactly what I meant when I wrote:

"But without scientific data in regards to this, you can only guess."

>>You<< in this case refers to anyone (i.e. you, me or anybody else) having any sort of theory that is not backed up by valid data - which neither yours nor mine is.
For instance statistics aren't based on averages, i.e. the average FL Studio user, that average is only a portion, not that statistically valid. B: You've already made up your mind about it.
You are completely mistaken here. Statistics are either about census, which is often not possible to obtain the data for - and it certainly isn't here - or it is about the "average". There are three different common variables that are called "average" (with three different methods to calculate them):

https://www.statisticshowto.com/probabi ... dian-mode/


You seek mean average - when you wrote:

"The thing is about statistics though, the higher the number the more evened out the randomness becomes.",

you referred to the fact that if you have a big enough number of samples, you can use them to calculate the mean of a gaussian distribution, which evens out the statistical dispersion.

One thing though, it's a lot more valid to use the average social media user than the average Music Tech Magazine user, since one is somewhat geographically bound, and tied to a certain music demographic compared to Facebook.

C: Plus this is for fun, it's not going to be 100% accurate, but I think it's damn near accurate, it goes with my bias on it anyway, from the top five to the middle to the end. If it's not accurate it's close.

None of these methods are valid, as you are only guessing - and guesses do not contain any information outside stating the personal improvable opinion of somebody - when you say "damn near accurate" that is another guess. It is valid to say that you guess this, however it is not valid to infer anything from it.

For me it is only fun if it is somewhat smart, insightful and relevant or at least highly entertaining for some other reason. And the latter for me is to correct your false assumptions and conclusions here. :razz:

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v1o wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:34 am Reddit, only counting the largest groups:

Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members

and 3 hosts i use, still don't make the list!!!

im getting more professional by the day!!!
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For DP, the only real resource is MOTUnation.com. I know a lot of people criticize it, but I've always found then to be knowledgeable and more importantly, helpful. They just don't tolerate the kinds of shenanigans one finds here or on GS.

I'm not sure if there's a way to discover how many people are active members, or at least are signed up.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? :(

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syntonica wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:27 pm For DP, the only real resource is MOTUnation.com. I know a lot of people criticize it, but I've always found then to be knowledgeable and more importantly, helpful. They just don't tolerate the kinds of shenanigans one finds here or on GS.

I'm not sure if there's a way to discover how many people are active members, or at least are signed up.

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Feel sorry for Mixbus, Podium, N-track, MuTools, Multitrack Studio and Acoustica Mixcraft. For not gaining traction after all these years.
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v1o wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 2:36 pm Feel sorry for Mixbus, Podium, N-track, MuTools, Multitrack Studio and Acoustica Mixcraft. For not gaining traction after all these years.
still no mention of my 3.

im beginning to wonder if mine even exist? :o
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Seems about right to me.

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I need to switch to a more popular DAW to improve my self esteem and social network.
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v1o wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:34 am Reddit, only counting the largest groups:

Pro Tools - 27.4k members.
FL Studio - 236k
Ableton Live - 226k
Logic Pro - 53.9k
Cubase - 10.9k
Studio One - 9.2k
Reason 10.7k
Reaper 37.3k
Sonar 3.6k
Bitwig - 6.9k
Renoise - 3.4k
Digital Performer - 225 members
Traction Waveform - 295 members
Dubturbo - 1 member
https://www.reddit.com/r/DUBturbo/

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At least he posted a Gangnam Style remix.

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