Baby Audio Crystalline

[martiu]

I like how wide and smooth it can sound, but it's not lush enough for me. It seems more oriented towards a thin, bright, relatively simple sound. Whereas I generally prefer dense, dark, and complex reverbs.

is black hole dark? can you recommend best dark and dense reverbs? thanks

[Dirtgrain]

Tritik Irid can be dark. Valhalla Supermassive, also. Valhalla Shimmer, too. Maybe lots of reverbs can.

[musicproducerdee]

does anyone else feel that the fonts on this plugin aren't clear enough unless zoomed in?

[Ou_Tis]

I like how wide and smooth it can sound, but it's not lush enough for me. It seems more oriented towards a thin, bright, relatively simple sound. Whereas I generally prefer dense, dark, and complex reverbs.

is black hole dark? can you recommend best dark and dense reverbs? thanks

Blackhole's Gravity parameter controls both decay and density, but they're inversely related (so 0 gravity is maximal density with minimal decay, 100 is maximal decay with minimal density). You can use its feedback parameter to keep the dense reverb going for longer, but then it sounds more like sound design, since it's feeding the reverb back into itself.

My favorites for dark and dense are B2 and Adaptiverb, but they're very cpu intensive at high quality levels. I also like Voxengo CRTIVerb and CLA Epic (which combines 4 delays and 4 reverbs simultaneously, with the plate being a dark Lexicon 480L preset).

HD Cart and Acustica's Silver Volume B seem great for dark and dense, based on the audio examples, though I haven't demoed them yet. I'd guess that HD Cart (High Density Cartridge) is probably the densest 480L emulation, since afaik no others model the HD cartridge, though I think Acustica's Silver Volume H sounds closest to the hardware (Relab claim their emulation is a "sample accurate" replica of the hardware, but you can easily hear the difference in their comparison---Relab sounds cleaner, while the hardware has some analog messiness that you can also hear in the Acustica).

Seventh Heaven or other Bricasti IR based reverbs are popular and can do dark and dense pretty well, but I don't think they sound as good as the hardware, and they're not among my personal favorites. If Acustica ever does a Bricasti I imagine that will be better than Seventh Heaven, though at the expense of greater cpu usage.

[martiu]

thank you Ou_Tis

[BABY Audio]

Thanks for bumping the thread! We wanted to address the question of the "crackling bug" in the transients feature discussed on page 3 in this thread. It is correct that it was causing problems in the original version and in order to fix this we re-vamped the transients section entirely in the latest v1.3 update. The update is free for all owners of Crystalline.

More info on the fix and v1.3 here:
https://babyaud.io/blog/crystalline-v13-announcement

[Ou_Tis]

I've been demoing this some more for use cases where I actually might want a bright or sparkly or airy reverb without a lush tail, and for mixing with other reverbs with very different characters (since Crystalline is relatively clean and has a different character than my favorite reverbs, it seemed like a good candidate for mixing with them).

It's good for adding a bit of width and space to other reverbs.

The Smooth and Warp controls don't help all that much with hiss from vocal t and s sounds. Not a substitute for damping or using Soothe2 or deesser before the reverb. Guess these controls are really more for percussion.

The tail, despite being so thin, often sounds nasty (in a bad way). Though increasing modulation and playing with the length and warp help a bit.

The inability to fine-tune Shimmer (really just a high multi) and Size are overly limiting. Many other reverbs have better high multi options.

The sparkle is nice, if that's what you're going for.

Very nice width.

Ducker could use more controls but it's okay below 60 or so.

Having tempo sync on by default is unnecessarily confusing; one would expect pressing the button labeled "Sync" would turn Sync on. But you have press "Sync" to turn sync off.

I'm leaning towards passing for now, but it's made it to my "maybe" list if I have extra room in my future budgets.

[egbert101]

Bump. This is currently going for 51% off at $49.

https://babyaud.io/crystalline

[martiu]

i think 49$ is a great deal, the reverb is very good, buy now

[Leeevio]

does anyone else feel that the fonts on this plugin aren't clear enough unless zoomed in?

sometimes, it depends on gui scale, not so much disturbing by the way

[HOTF]

Bump. This is currently going for 51% off at $49. (again)