Softube Model 82

[chk071]

So I would absolutely love a Softube MS-20.

That would be nice.

Softube's emus rock.

[zerocrossing]

But their Model 82 offers the same use in their modular system (and afaik the mini moog and the moog modular aren't identical in components...granted there is a lot of overlap though).

And the thing is everyone wants different synths..
I don't own any XILS for instance because I have zero interest in any of the synths they have recreated. Somone on gearspace wanted: "Crumar DS2, Korg PSS-3100, Siel Orchestra".. I personally have zero interest in any of those.

Sure, this wouldn’t have been my pick either, but if it’s good, it’s good. I don’t think it really steps on TAL’s toes because as others have mentioned, the real reason to have this is to use inside Modular.

Someone mentioned an MS-20 here, but aren't other people saying the new Arturia MS-20 is fantastic?

I can’t really say if it’s accurate, but it really does sound great.

Me? I agree with you, Tal already did the 101... give me a jupiter 6 or a jupter

I’m really wondering why no one’s hit the Jupiter 4 up either. It and the SH-2 are really my favorite Roland analogs of all time.

4 or an oberheim ob-x (yes I have obsession but I am not convinced by it), a CS-80.

rsp

Have you hit up Arturia’s OB-Xa V and CS-80 V? Again, no originals here to compare them to, but they sound spot on to me. I really feel like Arturia’s been hitting it out of the park lately.

[Lazarus451]

This is interesting video about the synth



Edit. Dash Glitch shows that Vital is pretty good synth too at recreating sounds

[beely]

I’m really wondering why no one’s hit the Jupiter 4 up either.

No-one, apart from Cherry Audio, you mean, presumably.
(Actually, of all the Cherry synths, it's one of the ones of theirs I quite like, and will probably pick up one day if no-one else does a better one in the meantime.)

[zvenx]

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Have you hit up Arturia’s OB-Xa V and CS-80 V? Again, no originals here to compare them to, but they sound spot on to me. I really feel like Arturia’s been hitting it out of the park lately.

I have tried their OB-Xa three times.. when it was first released (I am an Oberheim Die Hard), when Obsession came out a few weeks later and a few weeks ago when Arturia had the $149 special for Pigment licensees.

I tried to like it .. just wasn't doing it for me.
I have never tried their CS-80, either the old one or new one alas.
rsp

[PAK]

I'll pass at $59. Not that the basic tone is bad. It's just simple to the point of boring to me - the equivalent of a synth labotomy. If I want those sounds Diva covers them well enough for me (I skipped TAL's for that reason too.. ) YMMV. And, yeah, I know you can use things in their modular (which I own, it's part of their bundle). Just not a fan of the "feel", and CPU usage tends to be quite high..

I hoped they'd tackle the "harder" stuff. This kinda feels like a step backwards, even from the Juno 106, in that regard. But I know the SH-101 has its fans, just like the 303. Just not sure if they needed another option at this point either.

[foosnark]

I like the SH-101 in general, but I'm not obsessed with it. I use LuSH-101 every once in a while. I like it overall, but find all the layer/multitimbral stuff in it kind of silly in a plugin.

How does TAL compare to that one?

[chk071]

This is interesting video about the synth

Funny how he says that the square waves don't match, when his SH-101's square wave sounds completely different to this SH-101 for example:



I think especially with the square wave, the analog synths can be quite off, when the parameter for the pulse width isn't calibrated, or the pots are worn.

If anything, the Model 82 sounds a bit brighter (to my golden ears...), and lacks a bit of bass.

[zvenx]

Yes. He came to a completely different conclusion than Carr. At least Carr allowed us to hear A vs B continuously.
I don't know who is correct.
But as more comparisons come out, we probably would get a better idea.

I have never owned an sh 101, played a few several times in stores in the 80s and 90s, have no real memory of what it sounded like, but I was for sure not blown away by it.



Rsp

[chk071]

Yes. He came to a completely different conclusion than Carr. At least Carr allowed us to hear A vs B continuously.

The comparison is much more extensive. I think the Model 82 is pretty close in the comparison.

As I mentioned, just comparing the square wave, most plugins will differ from the original.

And the peaks he mentioned on the waveforms are some kind of filters in software, as far as I know. It's normal. The actual shape of the waveform is a different thing. Suspicious that Starsky Carr's oscilloscope didn't work for the video.

[fairlyclose]

Excellent video from Dash - of course one needs comparison to a few units to get an idea for how much is just variation between hardware units compared to accuracy of the modelling. For accurate modelling one would want a method to reproduce those variations tho. Some comments on the youtube site are interesting - particularly the algorithm choice (BLEP v BLIT) which I am not really qualified to critique but my guess is that 12345gofuckyouself knows what they are talking about.
My interest is purely in terms of what does the Model82 get me that I dont have already and is that worth $59 I dont really care how accurate the model is.

[andrewbrewer]

I like the SH-101 in general, but I'm not obsessed with it. I use LuSH-101 every once in a while. I like it overall, but find all the layer/multitimbral stuff in it kind of silly in a plugin.

How does TAL compare to that one?

TAL bassline 101 and lush-101 are very different experiences to me. I like both. TAL is better for making something from scratch to purpose. Lush-101 has some cool and clever presets.

[zerocrossing]

I’m really wondering why no one’s hit the Jupiter 4 up either.

No-one, apart from Cherry Audio, you mean, presumably.
(Actually, of all the Cherry synths, it's one of the ones of theirs I quite like, and will probably pick up one day if no-one else does a better one in the meantime.)

I heard an a-b demo of a Jupiter 4 and Cherry’s and my first thought was, “I wonder why no one’s doing a Jupiter 4 emulation.”

[zerocrossing]

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Have you hit up Arturia’s OB-Xa V and CS-80 V? Again, no originals here to compare them to, but they sound spot on to me. I really feel like Arturia’s been hitting it out of the park lately.

I have tried their OB-Xa three times.. when it was first released (I am an Oberheim Die Hard), when Obsession came out a few weeks later and a few weeks ago when Arturia had the $149 special for Pigment licensees.

I tried to like it .. just wasn't doing it for me.
I have never tried their CS-80, either the old one or new one alas.
rsp

I guess you can’t please everyone.*



*You can make everyone miserable.

[briefcasemanx]

There are others that they should focus their efforts on like the MS-20.

Arturia just made an MS-20 that sounds awesome. I guess it's not TAL specifically, but I don't understand the requirement since TAL aren't the best synth emulator company or even in the top 3 IMO.