Batman vs GAS. Loving it!VitaminD wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:09 pmBatman helps you save money.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:48 pm Damn...Sweetwater sells this. $34 bucks a month for a few months doesn't sound terrible to pay it off. No! You don't need this! Wait at least!
Strymon Big Sky Plugin
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 2 Oct, 2021
ABX is enemy to GAS
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 2 Jun, 2003
Deco, El Cap, Mobius, Irridium... Those are all pedals I would buy as plugins, so I hope they keep at it.
If every KVR member wrote one review a year we'd have 1340 reviews each day!
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 18 Jan, 2016
And there is a 3rd category, those who think they are pros just by buying overpriced software. Real pros simply make good music, even with the plugins included in your DAW.SonicDimension wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:08 pm There are two categories of users of audio software-- pros and amateurs. The pros have a bigger budget, so they are willing to buy $199 plug-ins. Amateurs are generally not willing to pay this much. ...
- Beware the Quoth
- 35433 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
There's only one category of massive oversimplification of multiple complex spectra, though.SonicDimension wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:08 pm There are two categories of users of audio software-- pros and amateurs.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRAF
- 8073 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I had a similar thought earlier this morning. The Valhalla plugins do have multiple algos (or variations at least), but is the diversity of algos in Big Sky roughly equivalent to buying Plate, Vintage, Room and Shimmer? And if so, are the Valhalla plugins more specialized, so $200 of Valhalla plugins still winds up covering more generally than the Strymon option?zerocrossing wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:43 am Someone compared it to buying Valhalla plugins, but they’re an algorithm each for $50, and this is 12 algorithms for $199
But anyway, I have several great reverbs, more than I can use honestly, so the only thing that's going to convince me to buy another is something different and fairly inexpensive.
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- KVRAF
- 1966 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania
well - I would say this has 12 algos and its very very good and underrated...
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45$
not happy with Strymon choice but what can I say...
they make amazing stuff.
https://www.audiority.com/shop/xenoverb/
45$
not happy with Strymon choice but what can I say...
they make amazing stuff.
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- KVRist
- 236 posts since 30 Dec, 2018
As a guitarist, it's cool to see Strymon venture into VST land. I've spent a stupid amount on delay and reverb pedals over the years. Can't say I'd do the same when it comes to delay and reverb VSTs. I'll wait for these guys to follow suit of Eventide with $29 sales. Even that might not be enough to entice since I'm pretty well covered with Eventide's Blackhole and MangledVerb.
- KVRAF
- 18383 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
My bad, I didn’t realize the Valhalla plugins came with so many variants. Anyway, I’ve purchased a Big Sky to demo, and I did think it sounded like $200 worth of plugin. I didn’t keep it because I didn’t feel it was worth the desk space, when I have the Eventide plugins, B2, Valhalla Shimmer, the UAD Lexicon plugins, UAD EMT plugins, REFLECT, etc.Agreed wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:48 am Valhalla are not $50 per algorithm. In fact:
Valhalla Vintageverb at $50 has the following algorithms: Concert Hall / Bright Hall / Plate / Room / Chamber / Random Space / Chorus Space / Ambience / Sanctuary / Dirty Hall / Dirty Plate / Smooth Plate / Smooth Room / Smooth Random / Nonlin / Chaotic Hall / Chaotic Chamber / Chaotic Neutral / Cathedral
Valhalla Plate at $50 has the following algorithms: Chrome / Steel / Brass / Cobalt / Adamantium / Titanium / Osmium / Aluminum / Copper / Unobtainium / Radium / Lithium
Valhalla Room at $50 has the following algorithms, with more adjustment parameters: Large Room / Medium Room / Bright Room / Large Chamber / Dark Room / Dark Chamber / Dark Space / Nostromo / Narcissus / Sulaco / LV-426 / Dense Room
Valhalla Shimmer at $50 has the following modes: Single / Dual / SingleReverse / DualReverse / Bypass - these apply to the following algorithms: Mono / BigStereo / MediumStereo / SmallStereo
Supermassive is free and has 16 algorithms, but nothing's stopping you from getting a Big Sky plugin and still getting Supermassive for free![]()
There are other reverb plugins in the $200 (and up) price range. Altiverb, Adaptiverb, Fabfilter, Soundtoys, of course Lexicon sails way up from there (they got a $1300 reverb software package). But you gotta be swinging something heavy to fit in with those. I'm going to download and evaluate the Strymon plugin, as I do like their pedals and I've followed the company since it was Damage Control (used to have a mess of Damage Control pedals, once upon a time, people quite liked the Timeline and Glass Nexus back in their day, ridiculously huge though they were). Not convinced I'll buy it - I'd be more likely to just get the pedal for $200 since that's about what the V1s run used anyway (or talk myself into spending the extra $100 for the V2 if the upgrades seemed compelling when looking into it, which I have not done because I am quite happy with my current reverb pedals), then I could use it with my outboard processing loop or I could use it on a pedalboard.
But if you were only looking for ITB usage and arbitrary number of copies in a project, I'm not knocking their offering, it is what it is - does it sound like $200?
Anyway, I’m excited to have their flavor of reverb at my disposal, and hopefully, if it does well, it will be incentive to release plugins of their other pedals, which I also think sound fantastic. I’d definitely buy a few of their plugins if they existed.
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- KVRAF
- 18383 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I get why they did it, but a rotary control for reverb type choice is silly for software.
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- KVRAF
- 8491 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I like the Valhalla stuff, but there is plenty that I often prefer over them tbh. Same with the strymon pedals, there are plenty pedal based reverbs/delays I use and prefer over them. I do consider them my workhorse pedals as they have a ton of features, where the more 'boutique' and interesting pedals are often less flexible. 
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10238 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
You can click on the labels too. So no need to use the rotary.zerocrossing wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:12 pm I get why they did it, but a rotary control for reverb type choice is silly for software.
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- KVRAF
- 12087 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I posted this earlier- it's on sale at the moment audio deluxe- I just paid £22 for it and V1.4 is CLAP.wakax wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:52 pm well - I would say this has 12 algos and its very very good and underrated...
https://www.audiority.com/shop/xenoverb/
45$
not happy with Strymon choice but what can I say...
they make amazing stuff.
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