FL Studio over Reaper?

[Dunbar]

Who has a commercial unused license of FL Studio and continues to use Reaper?

I have an unused license for Fruity Loops 21.1 (full version). I use Reaper instead because it doesn't require someone else's computer to install and "activate".

I learned a lesson about remote activation servers the hard way. It's not a mistake I will make twice.

[Trancit]

That's probably not the case, but I think what really makes FL's piano roll "special" is that someone clearly thought about usability, rather than just features.

That´s it not alone... Yes it got the far best "feel" for me with just editing notes but FLS´ PR editor is by far the most feature rich of all DAWs even if it doesn´t cover some aspects others (like Cubase) have...
Besides the brilliant editing feel it´s foremost the PR Tools which makes it so powerful... the chopper alone is absolutely unique for all DAWs and essential for complex note/chord chopping especially with the ability to save your own rhythm presets which can be as long and as complex as you like what sets this tool completely apart from everything else on the market even all Midi VSTs, Max4Live, DAW integrated like Bitwig (while you could build something similar here but this would be a) very cumbersome to do and b) would just work in realtime where you would have to record the result to got it printed to midi)...

Especially these PR tools are so mighty that there simply is no competition and now with midi scripting it´s nearly unbeatable...
It lacks of MPE yes, so for people relying on this there would be just the option to use native devices but regarding that FLS´native "MPE" capabilities were already there before the MPE developers even had the wet dream of doing it (or most likely they just borrowed that idea from FL Studio) speaks for Gol´s genius...

[THE INTRANCER]

Who has a commercial unused license of FL Studio and continues to use Reaper?

I have an unused license for Fruity Loops 21.1 (full version). I use Reaper instead because it doesn't require someone else's computer to install and "activate".

I learned a lesson about remote activation servers the hard way. It's not a mistake I will make twice.

Why would you use someone else's computer to install and activate a piece of software and not your own?

Surly you can still do offline activation of FLStudio in any case if you wanted to use it on a different computer without internet.

[Dunbar]

Why would you use someone else's computer...

All installations of Fruity Loops after version 20.8.4 require someone else's computer to function fully.

[Frankie.T]

Who has a commercial unused license of FL Studio and continues to use Reaper?

I have an unused license for Fruity Loops 21.1 (full version). I use Reaper instead because it doesn't require someone else's computer to install and "activate".

I learned a lesson about remote activation servers the hard way. It's not a mistake I will make twice.

Same here.

That's the reason i made a switch from FL to Reaper.

I could never be happier, cause Reaper FOR ME is better in any way but the piano roll. FL pianoroll it's on another level, but that's the only downside i found, otherwise i'm very happy from the switch.

I also believe into "vote with your money" and till i dislike the way DRM works for software for LEGIT users, while people who cr4ck software have not these issues, i decided that way.

Everyone is free to do whatever they want, but just remember Waves few months ago, if they didn't changed their mind, you would be all screwed just because you do not really own what you have payed for, since you need THEM to use what YOU have paid for.

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^
Why not have Reaper host FLS as a VST and this way you can play with the FLS piano roll?
I am interested in the workflow of this combo.

[THE INTRANCER]

Why would you use someone else's computer...

All installations of Fruity Loops after version 20.8.4 require someone else's computer to function fully.

So if I want to buy a legit copy of FLStudio, you're telling me that I can't register and activate it vie FLStudio's website? Like seriously?

[sjm]

Why not have Reaper host FLS as a VST and this way you can play with the FLS piano roll?
I am interested in the workflow of this combo.

I tried that, but lost access to half the shortcuts in FL Studio, which quickly negates all the workflow benefits and makes it extremely tedious to work with. The option in Reaper to forward shortcuts (can't remember its name) makes no difference, and it seems this is a problem that isn't just restricted to FL Studio - in the course of searching for solutions, I came across a whole bunch of threads with similar issues with other plugins. It's not that no shortcuts work, but a load of important ones don't. I think all the function keys are essentially disabled, and as they are used to quickly navigate in FL Studio, it was a showstopper for me. If there's a solution, I'd love to know, and this was a while back (basically when IL went C/R), so maybe things have changed.

I'd hoped to be able to use Reaper + FL Studio 20.8.4 to get the benefits of the piano roll while transitioning to a DAW with frequent updates and a better workflow for recording instruments as audio. I'm not a fan of C/R, hence me looking for alternatives, but it really didn't work well. I'm sticking with FL Studio 20.8.4 for now; there's nothing in the new version of FL Studio that addresses any of my needs/issues, and that version will work indefinitely as long as I have my regkey.

[sjm]

Why would you use someone else's computer...

All installations of Fruity Loops after version 20.8.4 require someone else's computer to function fully.

So if I want to buy a legit copy of FLStudio, you're telling me that I can't register and activate it vie FLStudio's website? Like seriously?

The other computer referred to in the post you quote is the IL server that is required to activate the software. When those go down, you'll have no means of activating FL Studio on a new PC. The official solution is "use the crack" which is irony of the highest order.

[xbitz]

^^^"I would start the demo with Voltage2 modular environment.


It has a state similar to what Bitwig had before the MSEG update(has zillions of CV-based modulation devices except MSEG ones). Therefore, it requires a third-party MSEG plugin (like Gatekeeper) for efficient functionality. Additionally, it features MIDI learn, allowing plugin opening to be bound to a keyboard shortcut


from 12:10

VCV2 also has a VST plugin host just not too reliable and needs too many clicks for handling it

from 12:30 but looks nicer

https://cherryaudio.com/products/voltage-modular and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/plug-in-host and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/remote-control
or
https://vcvrack.com/ and https://vcvrack.com/Host
or
Bitwig

The modular environment I can use per track must be able to host VST's. So I need a VST plugin that can host VST's.

... then with a video if you have free 10minutes



"Allow me to present a couple of use cases to highlight the flexibility of Voltage2:

Case 1: Running multiple instances of plugins (2 Spire + Waves StudioRack) within Voltage2.
Case 2: Efficiently managing knobs and remote control operations using the PSP Space plugin (which hasn't got any CV input)" inside of Reaper

[kvotchin]

Who has a commercial unused license of FL Studio and continues to use Reaper?

Me. But only because I can’t sell the FL license..

[Blaster]

The other computer referred to in the post you quote is the IL server that is required to activate the software. When those go down, you'll have no means of activating FL Studio on a new PC. The official solution is "use the crack" which is irony of the highest order.

Not true. You should be able to download the license file and use that to unlock FL Studio just like before.

[N__K]

The other computer referred to in the post you quote is the IL server that is required to activate the software. When those go down, you'll have no means of activating FL Studio on a new PC. The official solution is "use the crack" which is irony of the highest order.

Not true. You can download the license file and use that to unlock FL Studio just like before.

Since version 20.9, that won't work on a new computer, because the machine ID and activation is tied to hardware. If/when you change the computer, you'll need IL's servers again.

20.8.4 is the last version with offline regkey that will work on any computer.


I suspect that Image-Line changed the method of app registering/activation because:

1. people in new markets (China etc.) were sharing regkeys and accounts on a massive scale
2. IL wanted to monitor usage of the app in general
3. IL as a company/tribe is getting too old for taking any sh*t from anyone on the basis of "do no evil"

[sjm]

The other computer referred to in the post you quote is the IL server that is required to activate the software. When those go down, you'll have no means of activating FL Studio on a new PC. The official solution is "use the crack" which is irony of the highest order.

Not true. You should be able to download the license file and use that to unlock FL Studio just like before.

And how will you download that file when the IL server no longer exists? Remember that the license file is now machine locked, so you can't just back up the file indefinitely like the regkey.

[N__K]

[...] Who has a commercial unused license of FL Studio and continues to use Reaper?

I use REAPER (+ IL VSTs, among others) rather than FL Studio because it suits my needs better. That, in some sense, may be interpreted as having an "unused" FLS license.

That said, I still need FLS for occasions when a project I work on was originally made in it*, or in case the nature of a project makes it especially suitable to be done in FL Studio (read that as you will).

*albeit these days there are ways to free [some of] one's intellectual property from "evil clutches" of proprietary .flp files without necessarily needing to use FL Studio itself.