wanting new gear is procrastination also …

[Uncle E]

and even then people will say “you great “

and you may think “ i can only play 8 chords “

it doesn’t matter in the masses eyes you have achieved success which equals greatness

I doubt many people would consider Noel Gallagher to be a great guitar player. His picking technique is certainly unorthodox (to put it charitably). At the same time, I realize now as an older man that the jangly sound produced by that technique is enjoyed by a lot more people than the fuller sound produced by my "better" technique:

[Uncle E]

some people get an old guitar and just get good on it then when there actually good they get something else

where as some people get something don’t even learn it then want something else in the hope it will inspire them or make them
better and it won’t that’s procrastination

Yes, true. As DrGonzo said earlier, it can take time to find the instrument you gel with, but once you find it, it's probably best to hang on to it and make the best of it. No point in chasing the next thing that is only a 10% improvement. "Perfect is the enemy of good."

[zerocrossing]

i’m a firm believer if you build it they will come

That’s awesome for inspirational movie dialogue, but here in the real world, I’ve seen many great things “built” and no one came. Great things. I have friends who were in a prog rock group. They were as good as anyone. King Crimson good. Everyone who did hear or see them, who liked that kind of music, agreed, so I’m not just talking about my opinion.

So… where are they? They gave up after a few years of knocking on doors that were locked. Why? Who knows. The only one I’m still in contact with is the lead guitarist, who set out to make more commercially viable music. I’ve heard his tracks. They’re as good as anything I’ve heard on the radio. So why isn’t he a household name? Why does mediocre song writer Taylor Swift pack stadiums where tickets sell for thousands, and my friend is mostly teaching lessons to pay the rent?

Go ahead and build it, though, but make sure that you enjoy the process of building it, because the odds are that no one is coming. You can’t point at exceptions to the rule and call them the rule. Pop stars are the bait the music industry uses to trick people into believing that it’s possible. Like a lottery.

[vurt]

it's easy, you just parade yourself on tv to simon cowell, and if you're the best, you become a pop star.

easy! stop procrastinating and do it!

[Bombadil]

Not 'music industry.' Gear Industry. 'Get this new gizmo and you'll be great.
Procrastination has more to do with perfectionism, which can play into the ,must have this gear to be my best!'
Bollocks.

[vurt]

cosmos won't make me better, but it will make what i do betterer!!!

[vurt]

and when elmyra also arrives, then it will just be more noise and more bettererer still!

[tundra5]

i’m a firm believer if you build it they will come

That’s awesome for inspirational movie dialogue, but here in the real world, I’ve seen many great things “built” and no one came. Great things. I have friends who were in a prog rock group. They were as good as anyone. King Crimson good. Everyone who did hear or see them, who liked that kind of music, agreed, so I’m not just talking about my opinion.

So… where are they? They gave up after a few years of knocking on doors that were locked. Why? Who knows. The only one I’m still in contact with is the lead guitarist, who set out to make more commercially viable music. I’ve heard his tracks. They’re as good as anything I’ve heard on the radio. So why isn’t he a household name? Why does mediocre song writer Taylor Swift pack stadiums where tickets sell for thousands, and my friend is mostly teaching lessons to pay the rent?

Go ahead and build it, though, but make sure that you enjoy the process of building it, because the odds are that no one is coming. You can’t point at exceptions to the rule and call them the rule. Pop stars are the bait the music industry uses to trick people into believing that it’s possible. Like a lottery.

u said it yourself they gave up

amber run were billed as the next coldplay they had a good first album
dropped there next stuff ain’t there but they keep together

it’s not saying there ain’t people out there good

but there doing something different

people pick the music

look at onerepublic and owl city they were found on myspace and all
the ones found on youtube

[tundra5]

it's easy, you just parade yourself on tv to simon cowell, and if you're the best, you become a pop star.

easy! stop procrastinating and do it!

u think that’s easy to go on that show i would never

[Uncle E]

OneRepublic wasn't just luck, either. They worked hard at it for years and had many minor successes along the way. Their trajectory would be a great one to emulate.

[tundra5]

i’m a firm believer if you build it they will come

Go ahead and build it, though, but make sure that you enjoy the process of building it, because the odds are that no one is coming. You can’t point at exceptions to the rule and call them the rule. Pop stars are the bait the music industry uses to trick people into believing that it’s possible. Like a lottery.

this is disgusting really
because if you give this attitude to your kids they will never try

and anyway why is it always top ten success that people think is success live music is where money is made now

and bands tour have a few good thousand followers and make success

the attitude online is soo negative

but when i meet some musicians
in real life and people who have had some kind of good life from it

there attitude is

“ one song “
“ you can do it “
if you keep trying never give up


listen i know life isn’t a movie because it’s hard
and has a lot more downs than ups

but these people who achieve have one thing many of us including me don’t have


they do not give up
and they risk everything to get there
and keep going
and maybe some don’t hit the top too but they still have a good life from it



no one is coming

f**k me get a noose
bottle of whiskey and some tablets now

i was having a convocation with a woman in the bar who was awesome you can still make it i said

nah im 35 now she said i just do what i do now

and while what she does was and is good

she accepted her fate at 35 so young

i knew a brazilian man who would never accept his fate he is finally teaching now after some small tv success in portugal ( teaching in japan )

a lot of people who achieve in any field are built different they don’t hear no or accept defeat

but like my cat lol

[tundra5]

OneRepublic wasn't just luck, either. They worked hard at it for years and had many minor successes along the way. Their trajectory would be a great one to emulate.

that’s exactly my point it’s not luck

it’s hard work persistence

to never give up these are the one who don’t give up

takes a strong kind of self belief a lot of us ( not saying us ) but humans don’t have

[tundra5]

and even then people will say “you great “

and you may think “ i can only play 8 chords “

it doesn’t matter in the masses eyes you have achieved success which equals greatness

I doubt many people would consider Noel Gallagher to be a great guitar player. His picking technique is certainly unorthodox (to put it charitably). At the same time, I realize now as an older man that the jangly sound produced by that technique is enjoyed by a lot more people than the fuller sound produced by my "better" technique:

i’ve heard this so much and i’ve no doubt you are mate

i never see this guy play barre chords at all when he plays acoustic
and live people tell me his solos are simple as ( i only strum chords so i don’t know )

but it doesn’t matter he has something and he has his brothers loud mouth together they built something very quickly and people came

[Uncle E]

Yes, don't be dissuaded. Be realistic about what the music industry is but also be creative about where you can fit in it. "Making it" can mean a lot of different things and certainly doesn't have to mean becoming a pop star. Just ask the ones who are now drug addled or dead.

[Uncle E]

i’ve heard this so much and i’ve no doubt you are mate

i never see this guy play barre chords at all when he plays acoustic
and live people tell me his solos are simple as ( i only strum chords so i don’t know )

but it doesn’t matter he has something and he has his brothers loud mouth together they built something very quickly and people came

In case I communicated myself poorly, it wasn't meant as a slight against Noel Gallagher or Oasis. They make great music and deserve everything they have.