hope you guys will make some sort of SDK available to already established plugin developers for purchase.
IMO I think this would be the key to being a HUGE success.
** An official announcement about BionicFX latency **
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 27 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
We are investigating synths. Nothing is firm.JonnySun 1.0 wrote:JamesOne: When will the first synths be released? Tassman is a special candidate for AVEX ... or the waldorf synths. Do you have asked some of the developers?
Urs plan to release his plugs to the native platform. What's about asking him for porting his plugs also on AVEX platform? www.ursplugins.com
I want to do one, simply because the name: Bionic Synthesia is too obvious to pass up. (synethesia is the medical term for hearing colors, perceiving different senses together). It adds another meaning to "music that's out of sight".
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 27 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
ttoz wrote:At the end of the day it was supposed to even work on fx5200.
The specs have not been published anywhere. Please point me at a specific post or location and I will correct it.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 27 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Thanks for the support BK.BK wrote:James,
Please ignore all the naysayers here, and continue on with this fascinating work.
People: these are preliminary results of newly emerging technology. Just to prove that it really can work. Give the guy a break. I wouldn't blame him if he stopped posting here until he has solid final stats, but I hope that's not the case.
What many of you don't seem to realize is that the processing power in todays $500.00 vid card will be available in a year or two for $150.00 or less, and generate much less heat than today's offerings. It happens all the time.
Here's a couple of things to note:
1. We are coding for the future, not introducing a technology to band-aid previous generations of hardware. So, even if a 6800 sounds high now, it shouldn't down the road. And, to reiterate, that's the development platform, not the product specs.
2. To all of our Aussie friends. You should see less expensive cards in the future. There's always some distribution lag time. In the US, 6xxx cards range from $130 to $500 and these will become even cheaper in the future.
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
Thanks for the thought JamesjamesOne wrote: 2. To all of our Aussie friends. You should see less expensive cards in the future. There's always some distribution lag time. In the US, 6xxx cards range from $130 to $500 and these will become even cheaper in the future.
God forbid that the streets of Melbourne should be lined with panhandlers holding up signs - "Brother can you spare a 6800."
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- KVRist
- 421 posts since 12 Jun, 2004
To JamesOne:
What's about Matrox-Cards? As far as i know they offer triple-head-feature. That would be important to me and others if buying new computer and graphic card. NVIDIA-Cards seem to only offer 2-Monitor out ...
I would be glad if there is planned to support matrox cards. I don't need 40 Flops or more at the moment, but 3 Instances of reverb and maybe some effects should be managed by actual matrox cards, don't they?
What's about Matrox-Cards? As far as i know they offer triple-head-feature. That would be important to me and others if buying new computer and graphic card. NVIDIA-Cards seem to only offer 2-Monitor out ...
I would be glad if there is planned to support matrox cards. I don't need 40 Flops or more at the moment, but 3 Instances of reverb and maybe some effects should be managed by actual matrox cards, don't they?
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
The Nforce 4 SLI boards are going to offer two PCIE Video slots so you potentially put two FX6800s in there and, assuming all outputs are still live in SLI configurarion, you could get 4 Digital video outs and twice as much number crunching power.JonnySun 1.0 wrote: NVIDIA-Cards seem to only offer 2-Monitor out ...
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- KVRist
- 421 posts since 12 Jun, 2004
Hm, what's about PCI Stress? (If a Powercore and UAD, maybe also Creamware Scope 14 DSP-Card is put in the mobo?)
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
Well Sir - I'm glad you asked that!JonnySun 1.0 wrote:Hm, what's about PCI Stress? (If a Powercore and UAD, maybe also Creamware Scope 14 DSP-Card is put in the mobo?)
With new PCI Express (with blue crystals) your PCI Stress days are over!
PCIE is not a shared bus architecture - every slot gets its own bandwidth which is more than the whole PCI bus got under PCI 2.x
In short, its a "whole new ballgame.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRist
- 260 posts since 2 May, 2004
Whos up for the bet, that there will be people saying:
"The Nvidia might be more on the power side, but an ATI Card sounds better (possibly because of the material they used to actually build the card) (Possibly because it was the same they use for High Quality Audio Cables)"
Also: Make it possible to have Synthedit exported to a Bionic plug, and you have a lot of friends.
"The Nvidia might be more on the power side, but an ATI Card sounds better (possibly because of the material they used to actually build the card) (Possibly because it was the same they use for High Quality Audio Cables)"
Also: Make it possible to have Synthedit exported to a Bionic plug, and you have a lot of friends.
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 1 Jan, 2003 from Finland
I have really high hopes for this, and assuming the final product will have what it takes, I would definitely be ready to purchase a high-end graphics card to use it.
But I'm just very afraid that this will flop (and i'm not talking about a floating thing) and will not satisfy the expectations I have.
Not saying that I think it won't work out, i'm just afraid that it won't.
I'm hoping for the best!
But I'm just very afraid that this will flop (and i'm not talking about a floating thing) and will not satisfy the expectations I have.
Not saying that I think it won't work out, i'm just afraid that it won't.
I'm hoping for the best!
psy-trance freak
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- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
jamesOne, this all sounds pretty interesting. However, convolution computation performance is the 'show maker'. Its real-time performance should be known before judgements could be made on this technology.
BTW, if GPU's performance is that great, I think it could be possible to 'emulate' 64-bit calculations which are necessary for FFT calculations.
BTW, if GPU's performance is that great, I think it could be possible to 'emulate' 64-bit calculations which are necessary for FFT calculations.
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- KVRAF
- 2172 posts since 14 Feb, 2003
skOre wrote:Whos up for the bet, that there will be people saying:
"The Nvidia might be more on the power side, but an ATI Card sounds better (possibly because of the material they used to actually build the card) (Possibly because it was the same they use for High Quality Audio Cables)"
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 8 Dec, 2003
this is all fascinating, but in the end the quality of an audio plugin always comes down to the DSP algorithms and the user-interface (ie parameters and their range) ...... look f.e. at the new princeton digital reverb, it only takes 5% of the CPU, but seems to sound much better than any other native reverb..... proof of the fact that not raw DSP power but the efficiency and smartness of the algorithms are important....
for the user interface: look at the UAD plugins, f.e. the LA2A and 1176 compressors.....just 2 or 3 parameters, and it doesn't matter how you set them, it will always sound amazing! this is a very big part of the succes of these unit, the parameter range and UI is so highly optimised, you can't do wrong with those....(imho this also is true for synths, f.e. look at the succes of the minimoog or the roland juno series, these synths have super optimised user interfaces)...
Olaf
for the user interface: look at the UAD plugins, f.e. the LA2A and 1176 compressors.....just 2 or 3 parameters, and it doesn't matter how you set them, it will always sound amazing! this is a very big part of the succes of these unit, the parameter range and UI is so highly optimised, you can't do wrong with those....(imho this also is true for synths, f.e. look at the succes of the minimoog or the roland juno series, these synths have super optimised user interfaces)...
Olaf