PSA: STAY AWAY FROM UAD FOR LIVE SHOWS!!

[Dip200]

Holy crap this is bad. I bought UAD plugins during the sale and used the LX 224 in my live show. Turns out the plugins need an active internet connection to authorize? Now when I listen to the audio recording of my show it is dry without any reverb at all in critical sections.

I had reverb automation done so the reverb would have kicked in. I had supermassive and a delay as other sends, so that reverb masked it, or I'd have caught it during sound check.

The plugin just says "DAW Restart required".

UAD, please fix this Please don't go around punishing legit users like this. Don't give the bad guys another reason to use cracked plugins. Please.

So basically you have no clue what you are doing and now you want everyone to stay away from Universal Audio.

Sure.

[hey212]

The free UADx LA-2A plugin, released today, uses iLok Dongle and Machine Authorisation, out of interest - and no iLok Cloud.

It's the first UADx to offer machine authorisations.

Where do you see this stated about Machine Auth? Seems highly unlikely.

Edit: Never mind, saw your post in the other thread, you ain't lyin! Just grabbed it and it does in fact allow Machine Auth. Woot!

[xenophobic]

Hey bro don't bother warning the people here I learned that along time ago. I stopped buying plugins with Challenge Response ,ilok or pace after having a session go bad because a plugin stopped working because I didn't authorize it even though I did just needed to install it using admin privileges F that never again serial and key file is the only copyright on my rig and never had a problem since. I'm also a traveling laptop performer I feel your pain. I think know the majority of people here probably uses stationary setups so they probably don't have to worry about those situations like us.

PS. KVR please bring back the copyright filter a lot of the plugin developers make you dig to try to find out what copyright protection their using and mislabeling them it's annoying.

[Lbdunequest]

It is a known fact that many plugins require Internet connection to work.
It's not exclusive to UAD, but many other plugins use the same iLok technology.
For live shows you should use offline iLok dongle, not Internet connection authorization.

There's a big difference in HOW they handle internet connection. Reason for instance, shouts at your face by asking you to log in or cancel loading at all. In fact, this is precisely what it did during the same live show.

After authorizing Reason, I could put my laptop to sleep, turn off wifi, resume and it was still working. The same sequence with UAD did not work, so yeah they're a lot stricter about this apparently.

Such a shame. The plugins were sounding good. Nothing I didn't have in my arsenal already but I was happy to use 'em. Count them as having lost a new enthusiastic user (this was my first intro to UAD) due to this mishap.

I have done many shows, and always rehearsed, if something happened, it was my own mistake. Sorry not sorry, but what would be the difference if plugin has shouted no reverb during the show? its your own fault for not rehearsing and not prepearing for the show in advance. I mean take the responsability for your own fault.

[chk071]

Hey bro don't bother warning the people here I learned that along time ago.

Maybe there isn't a "hazard". Ever thought about that?

I would really make sure that my plugins work before performing live.

I just imagined these people holding up signs that the world is going to end. Or that Jesus saves.

But, I won't project that on the OP. He seemed rather honest in his appeal. But, again, everyone using software on stage should make sure that it works. And, everyone should also make sure that they understand how the respective software authorization works. iLok machine authorization isn't iLok Cloud, or dongle protection. That's why they have those neat icons in front of the licenses in the iLok License Manager.

[xenophobic]

It is a known fact that many plugins require Internet connection to work.
It's not exclusive to UAD, but many other plugins use the same iLok technology.
For live shows you should use offline iLok dongle, not Internet connection authorization.

There's a big difference in HOW they handle internet connection. Reason for instance, shouts at your face by asking you to log in or cancel loading at all. In fact, this is precisely what it did during the same live show.

After authorizing Reason, I could put my laptop to sleep, turn off wifi, resume and it was still working. The same sequence with UAD did not work, so yeah they're a lot stricter about this apparently.

Such a shame. The plugins were sounding good. Nothing I didn't have in my arsenal already but I was happy to use 'em. Count them as having lost a new enthusiastic user (this was my first intro to UAD) due to this mishap.

I have done many shows, and always rehearsed, if something happened, it was my own mistake. Sorry not sorry, but what would be the difference if plugin has shouted no reverb during the show? its your own fault for not rehearsing and not prepearing for the show in advance. I mean take the responsability for your own fault.

Bro common you must be the luckiest performer ever there is always something going on at live performances stop it all we can do is try to mitigate the problems before they happen but something usually comes up and in his case copy protection struck.

[xenophobic]

Hey bro don't bother warning the people here I learned that along time ago.

Maybe there isn't a "hazard". Ever thought about that?

I would really make sure that my plugins work before performing live.

I just imagined these people holding up signs that the world is going to end. Or that Jesus saves.

But, I won't project that on the OP. He seemed rather honest in his appeal. But, again, everyone using software on stage should make sure that it works. And, everyone should also make sure that they understand how the respective software authorization works. iLok machine authorization isn't iLok Cloud, or dongle protection. That's why they have those neat icons in front of the licenses in the iLok License Manager.

hey can somebody mute this company man he's every where go make music. musicians wouldn't have a thousand post here go away. this is the last time I'm responding to you ignored.

[chk071]

hey can somebody mute this company man

This confirms your delusions.

[Lbdunequest]

It is a known fact that many plugins require Internet connection to work.
It's not exclusive to UAD, but many other plugins use the same iLok technology.
For live shows you should use offline iLok dongle, not Internet connection authorization.

There's a big difference in HOW they handle internet connection. Reason for instance, shouts at your face by asking you to log in or cancel loading at all. In fact, this is precisely what it did during the same live show.

After authorizing Reason, I could put my laptop to sleep, turn off wifi, resume and it was still working. The same sequence with UAD did not work, so yeah they're a lot stricter about this apparently.

Such a shame. The plugins were sounding good. Nothing I didn't have in my arsenal already but I was happy to use 'em. Count them as having lost a new enthusiastic user (this was my first intro to UAD) due to this mishap.

I have done many shows, and always rehearsed, if something happened, it was my own mistake. Sorry not sorry, but what would be the difference if plugin has shouted no reverb during the show? its your own fault for not rehearsing and not prepearing for the show in advance. I mean take the responsability for your own fault.

Bro common you must be the luckiest performer ever there is always something going on at live performances stop it all we can do is try to mitigate the problems before they happen but something usually comes up and in his case copy protection struck.

No, its not the copy protection struck, its incompetence struck, if the topic creator wouldve rehearsed on a computer without internet then he wouldve noticed there is something wrong. Dont be Karen.

And im not the luckiest man, ive had had problems during live performance, BUT i always had a backup plan in case this happens. You know how its called ? rehearsal and precausion, planing, prepearing. You want to give your audience the best, so work on that.

[keyman_sam]

It is a known fact that many plugins require Internet connection to work.
It's not exclusive to UAD, but many other plugins use the same iLok technology.
For live shows you should use offline iLok dongle, not Internet connection authorization.

There's a big difference in HOW they handle internet connection. Reason for instance, shouts at your face by asking you to log in or cancel loading at all. In fact, this is precisely what it did during the same live show.

After authorizing Reason, I could put my laptop to sleep, turn off wifi, resume and it was still working. The same sequence with UAD did not work, so yeah they're a lot stricter about this apparently.

Such a shame. The plugins were sounding good. Nothing I didn't have in my arsenal already but I was happy to use 'em. Count them as having lost a new enthusiastic user (this was my first intro to UAD) due to this mishap.

I have done many shows, and always rehearsed, if something happened, it was my own mistake. Sorry not sorry, but what would be the difference if plugin has shouted no reverb during the show? its your own fault for not rehearsing and not prepearing for the show in advance. I mean take the responsability for your own fault.

Bro common you must be the luckiest performer ever there is always something going on at live performances stop it all we can do is try to mitigate the problems before they happen but something usually comes up and in his case copy protection struck.

No, its not the copy protection struck, its incompetence struck, if the topic creator wouldve rehearsed on a computer without internet then he wouldve noticed there is something wrong. Dont be Karen.

And im not the luckiest man, ive had had problems during live performance, BUT i always had a backup plan in case this happens. You know how its called ? rehearsal and precausion, planing, prepearing. You want to give your audience the best, so work on that.

I did rehearse without the internet. Looks like you missed that part?

[Teksonik]

Ok kids avert your eyes and cover your ears it's about to get really salty. Chk071, don't even bother.

So I signed up for the UAD LA2A freebie being fully aware that it requires the iLok malware which I do have on my studio system but not on this one. But I couldn't even install "UA Connect" without sending Bitdefender into a frenzy. It's one of the top security suites on the market and not prone to false positives. I've installed every manner of janky freeware and demos etc on it even from new and unknown developers without a single issue. Of course nothing is perfect and this is obviously a false positive...or everyone else is blindly installing malware or at least completely unaware of what UA Connect is actually installing.

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Every one of those infected files are due to UA Connect. It's stunning how deep that app gets its hooks into our systems and I didn't even get to the part where it installed the iLok malware.

So, Universal Audio, G...F....Y. I'm sick and tired of developers taking every liberty they wish on our systems just to protect their freaking plugins. Sick....of....it.

No, I don't GAF what other people think and I won't bother to read whatever you post so all I will say is....UAD rot in hell.

[keyman_sam]

So basically you have no clue what you are doing and now you want everyone to stay away from Universal Audio.

Sure.

Well, I have a little clue so I’d hope your assumptions are untrue. Also I’d hope my message is more of a warning. Then again, I’m far from an armchair-internet-expert like yourself, so till I become a know-it-all I’ll have to resort to threads like this one.

[roman.i]

Well, I have a little clue so I’d hope your assumptions are untrue.

The guy obviously doesn't have any clue about what virus is and how anti virus works.
Knowing the vendor of the software you are installing is the best way to ensure that it is safe.

[briefcasemanx]

iLok strikes again

[Ghost_Train]

Holy crap this is bad. I bought UAD plugins during the sale and used the LX 224 in my live show. Turns out the plugins need an active internet connection to authorize? Now when I listen to the audio recording of my show it is dry without any reverb at all in critical sections.

I had reverb automation done so the reverb would have kicked in. I had supermassive and a delay as other sends, so that reverb masked it, or I'd have caught it during sound check.

The plugin just says "DAW Restart required".

UAD, please fix this Please don't go around punishing legit users like this. Don't give the bad guys another reason to use cracked plugins. Please.

I was surprised by this at first too. I have lots of iLok plugins but they've all been fine. I thought "Whats all the fuss about?"
When I got some UAD plugins on sale I was very confused when the plugins cut out in the middle of a session. My internet cable came out which insta-killed everything. Plugged in again, but no, they would not come back. It required the DAW to be restarted before it would work again. Its just a pain because currently Live takes like 3 or 4 minutes to load plugins and be ready to go again.

Contacted support. Asking them tp please add local activation cuz Cloud activation ain't cool. They don't care. They're just like (in other words) "Meh. Grow up. Go buy a USB iLok device and youre problems go away."

Against my will...i have continued to fall in love with these plugins anyway. Just gonna suck it up and invest.