Oberheim TEO-5 Leaked

[cryophonik]

Found my old Roland EV-5. Polarity set to normal and it works perfectly as set to default (LPF Full) and controls the full range of the filter. When I set it to CC11 and I assign it to another parameter (I used Osc1Freq and a few other parameters), it also worked perfectly. OS1.0.0.

Quoting my reply from another thread. However, I noticed another potential issue. Whenever I adjust a parameter using the expression pedal, the patch remembers the setting and stays set at the level when I switch to a new patch(es) then come back to the patch, regardless of the pedal position. I’m not sure if it’s intended behavior (i.e., it’s saved in a temporary buffer or something), but it seems like the original patch should be recalled, ignoring the previous position of the expression pedal. Powering the unit off and back on restores the original patch.

[Constructed Identity]

Found my old Roland EV-5. Polarity set to normal and it works perfectly as set to default (LPF Full) and controls the full range of the filter. When I set it to CC11 and I assign it to another parameter (I used Osc1Freq and a few other parameters), it also worked perfectly. OS1.0.0.

Quoting my reply from another thread. However, I noticed another potential issue. Whenever I adjust a parameter using the expression pedal, the patch remembers the setting and stays set at the level when I switch to a new patch(es) then come back to the patch, regardless of the pedal position. I’m not sure if it’s intended behavior (i.e., it’s saved in a temporary buffer or something), but it seems like the original patch should be recalled, ignoring the previous position of the expression pedal. Powering the unit off and back on restores the original patch.

That's interesting because it's not like my other synths. Changing the patch clears the memory of the current position of the expression, but not the Mod wheel on Prologue and Pro 3.
But if you can fully close the LP filter with the petal set to LP full and not have it just open up on all the factory presets, you don't have the issue I experienced.
Those are some great presets... did you play the sequences for them? Awesome little riffs

[cryophonik]

But if you can fully close the LP filter with the petal set to LP full and not have it just open up on all the factory presets, you don't have the issue I experienced.

Yeah, it doesn’t seem like it, but given the issue I had, maybe the bug is exhibited differently with different pedals. It won’t really affect me since I don’t plan on using my expression pedal with it, but hopefully they can fix it with a firmware update for those of you who do.

Those are some great presets... did you play the sequences for them? Awesome little riffs

Yes, I did play many of the presets and some of the sequences. I’ve actually spent the last three evenings playing with this synth and I’m pretty blown away by it.

[lfm]

J3PO demo is the best I heard so far


And he is a patch contributor as well, for many synths out there doing factory stuff.
- probably helps a lot

[lfm]

A desktop Take-5 or TEO-5 is a great idea, would sell thousands, but might compete with their own higher end products.

Could be, Korg seems to think so making desktops of almost all the smaller format stuff like MiniLogue too.

The sweetwater with Daniel Fischer is good example of versatility of TEO-5.
- you posted, thanks.

From support I got answer that you can copy over factory with the user stuff, 256 presets, but did not recommend that for some reason. Didn't say why.
- REV2 do and give 1024 total
- TAKE-5 do, but also a 2.0 firmware doubled amount, so maybe not needing a full copy anymore. So 256 total I think if factory is overwritten. Not sure if I got that right, not saying if userpart expanded to 256 or factory overwrite only making total 256.

Not sure how worked through it is since manual was not updated still(v1.02) with the missing parts
- not explaining how naming presets is done
- not explaining how Compare button works, if you can browse and preview while saving like on REV2?

512 is a fair amount to have if to really explore fully and make intermediate saves.

Don't think there is an auto spread voice panning either.
EDIT: source VoiceSpread and destination Panning taking one modulation slot do this. Amount tells width.
Such a nice modern thing to have a chord spread in stereo field

X-Mod through zero, not sure if that is unique.
- Had FM on Prologue without any tuning issues.
- it's been mentioned so much in reviews, even hyped

RingMod, never got a hang on this as an effect, it's on REV2 also and on TEO-5.
- Prologue had a switch to use for either sync or ring

Quite a few things are two handed operations over holding a button
- adjusting volume each oscillator etc
- instead there are just buttons instead of pot on panel
- less hands on

Better to wait a couple of firmware updates(still v1.0.0) and see where it goes....first ones arrive on friday here.....

[cryophonik]

Desktop TEO-5 (and Take 5) available for preorder ($1,399 for TEO-5; $1,299 for Take 5)

https://www.gearnews.com/oberheim-teo-5 ... ule-synth/

[lfm]

Why I feel TEO-5 is not really finished yet
- manual is still v1.02 and does not contains explanations of everything
- downloadable OS is still 1.0.0 and must have had an update in a year I would think

https://oberheim.com/products/teo-5/

[Constructed Identity]

Why I feel TEO-5 is not really finished yet
- manual is still v1.02 and does not contains explanations of everything
- downloadable OS is still 1.0.0 and must have had an update in a year I would think

https://oberheim.com/products/teo-5/

Lack of support is distressing. I think my next synth will either be a TEO-5 module or Artemis and that could decide it.

[_leras]

I always thought the OB-6 had a to much of a flavour. I'm probably wrong, but the TEO-5 seems to have bit less of it. It sounds incredible to me.

I think this is one of the best sounding demos.

[dadboy]

At this point I am just interested to know if anyone else has a problem with their unit's pedal input.......

I've only had it a couple days, but I tried mod and sustain pedals. With the mod pedal (which is really old), some things work and some don't. CC4 works, CC11 expression doesn't. Filter cutoff sort of works, but it seems to have the same range whether half or full.
I usually only use CC4, so it won't be a problem for me.

I think it might be something that could be fixed with an update.
I love the rest of it so much, that returning it would never cross my mind.
Are you planning on trying another one, or have you written if off completely?

I am going to find out if this is a hardware flaw in the first batch of produced units.
Not talking about the sustain pedal, only the input next to that which is typically expression, but can be assigned to other things on this synthesizer, like LP filter.
If your LP filter does not close all the way when you have pedal input set to that in Settings, you have the same problem.

I know I'm coming to this 2 years late, but I never saw a follow up and was curious what the resolution to this ended up being. I've had my TEO-5 for the last 10 months, with the expression pedal plugged in but largely unused for most of that time. Today, suddenly, I experienced this exact issue - my filter won't close all the way. I also experienced that same phenomenon where it stores that value across patches. I have to unplug the pedal and power cycle the device to resolve it. My pedal appears to work with other gear, so I'm concerned that there's a hardware fault. Any thoughts?

[Constructed Identity]

At this point I am just interested to know if anyone else has a problem with their unit's pedal input.......

I've only had it a couple days, but I tried mod and sustain pedals. With the mod pedal (which is really old), some things work and some don't. CC4 works, CC11 expression doesn't. Filter cutoff sort of works, but it seems to have the same range whether half or full.
I usually only use CC4, so it won't be a problem for me.

I think it might be something that could be fixed with an update.
I love the rest of it so much, that returning it would never cross my mind.
Are you planning on trying another one, or have you written if off completely?

I am going to find out if this is a hardware flaw in the first batch of produced units.
Not talking about the sustain pedal, only the input next to that which is typically expression, but can be assigned to other things on this synthesizer, like LP filter.
If your LP filter does not close all the way when you have pedal input set to that in Settings, you have the same problem.

I know I'm coming to this 2 years late, but I never saw a follow up and was curious what the resolution to this ended up being. I've had my TEO-5 for the last 10 months, with the expression pedal plugged in but largely unused for most of that time. Today, suddenly, I experienced this exact issue - my filter won't close all the way. I also experienced that same phenomenon where it stores that value across patches. I have to unplug the pedal and power cycle the device to resolve it. My pedal appears to work with other gear, so I'm concerned that there's a hardware fault. Any thoughts?

I contacted Sequential about it and they didn't offer a solution. I returned my TEO-5 and haven't gotten another one. Years ago they sent me a new main board for a faulty Pro 3 so you could try contacting Sequential since your outside of the return window.

[dadboy]

At this point I am just interested to know if anyone else has a problem with their unit's pedal input.......

I've only had it a couple days, but I tried mod and sustain pedals. With the mod pedal (which is really old), some things work and some don't. CC4 works, CC11 expression doesn't. Filter cutoff sort of works, but it seems to have the same range whether half or full.
I usually only use CC4, so it won't be a problem for me.

I think it might be something that could be fixed with an update.
I love the rest of it so much, that returning it would never cross my mind.
Are you planning on trying another one, or have you written if off completely?

I am going to find out if this is a hardware flaw in the first batch of produced units.
Not talking about the sustain pedal, only the input next to that which is typically expression, but can be assigned to other things on this synthesizer, like LP filter.
If your LP filter does not close all the way when you have pedal input set to that in Settings, you have the same problem.

I know I'm coming to this 2 years late, but I never saw a follow up and was curious what the resolution to this ended up being. I've had my TEO-5 for the last 10 months, with the expression pedal plugged in but largely unused for most of that time. Today, suddenly, I experienced this exact issue - my filter won't close all the way. I also experienced that same phenomenon where it stores that value across patches. I have to unplug the pedal and power cycle the device to resolve it. My pedal appears to work with other gear, so I'm concerned that there's a hardware fault. Any thoughts?

I contacted Sequential about it and they didn't offer a solution. I returned my TEO-5 and haven't gotten another one. Years ago they sent me a new main board for a faulty Pro 3 so you could try contacting Sequential since your outside of the return window.

Good to know. I'm waiting to hear back from sequential, we'll see what they say. I purchased from Sweetwater, so if nothing else I'm within their two year warranty window. Going to test with a friend's expression pedal later this week to see if it could be my pedal that's the problem.