Comprendre - Advanced compressor with 365 parameters
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 17 Nov, 2022
Is there a manual included in the download?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37261 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRAF
- 11363 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
So I've finally spent quite a lot of time with this thing and I have to congratulate the developer for an absolutely awesome plugin! It has massive potential for the future and could become an absolute classic! However, it needs a lot of work!
Overall I feel like the three main areas that must be vastly improved for this to be a viable commercial plugin.
1) The User Interface
As it is now, both of these elements of the plugin are sub-par for a commercially viable plugin. It needs a complete overhaul and much more thought into how it operates and how it is laid out. Knobs that affect the sound should look completely different to knobs that do not. Knobs that are currently irrelevant until some feature has been enabled should not be able to be operated.
The graphical metering stuff should have it's own tab and be possible to size into a huge size. If it could be precisely zoomed in and out with mouse+boxdrag it would be even more useful.
A user assignable macro knob system should be created and should have it's own tab that hides all other things. This would allow technically advanced users to share "easy to tweak" presets for the masses. This is an absolute must if you want to sell a lot of licenses. Otherwise it will remain an awesome but obscure plugin compressor with a very small following. If you make a good macro system tied in with good presets then this could potentially take off very suddenly and become the "next big thing" for mixing. The potential and quality of sound is there in spades..
2) Bug squashing
The plugin is buuuuuuugggy as hell. It's possible to break tons of the different sections within the plugin where it stops working until you delete the plugin and restart. Luckily you can first SAVE the settings, then delete the plugin from the session and reopen it and reload the preset and continue from there.
Many times a knob doesn't do what it is supposed to do.. if this happens, you need to do what I just described above. Many of the features that are sometimes really subtle to hear can randomly break (usually when you tweak something else that causes the whole feature to go "out of bounds") and not do what they are supposed to do. This can lead to a lot of frustration.
I have not had any crashes yet, except one single crash when I registered the plugin after purchase (when I hit the register button Reaper crashed to desktop).
3) The user manual
Either as a PDF or in a proper high quality video tutorial format. I suggest hiring external help. The current videos do not count at all, they have very bad production quality and are extremely difficult and frankly annoying to listen to. If you want to do video manuals they need to be done properly with a script and planning. There should be no ".. umm, what is it called?? ummmm.... you know.. ummmm??" and should be properly recorded with a high quality microphone and no room reflections and background noises of children.
Once you have these 3 points properly done you can bump up the price to 99+ euros and keep going from there. At the current 19 euro price I can only recommend this to crazy people like myself who can sort of dive into the thing and grok it after a lot of trial and error but I would not use this for any real production work as it is.. and no, the "presets" are nowhere near the actual devices that they try to emulate. Some of them are completely off and not even remotely in the same ballpark and most of them are "similar but not really".
However, if you are an adventurous soul and you want to make your own dynamics processors then this is a similar place to start as Ariesverb is for reverbs and modulation/delay effects. Absolutely excellent/world class results can be had with some careful tinkering and a lot of patience.
Overall I feel like the three main areas that must be vastly improved for this to be a viable commercial plugin.
1) The User Interface
As it is now, both of these elements of the plugin are sub-par for a commercially viable plugin. It needs a complete overhaul and much more thought into how it operates and how it is laid out. Knobs that affect the sound should look completely different to knobs that do not. Knobs that are currently irrelevant until some feature has been enabled should not be able to be operated.
The graphical metering stuff should have it's own tab and be possible to size into a huge size. If it could be precisely zoomed in and out with mouse+boxdrag it would be even more useful.
A user assignable macro knob system should be created and should have it's own tab that hides all other things. This would allow technically advanced users to share "easy to tweak" presets for the masses. This is an absolute must if you want to sell a lot of licenses. Otherwise it will remain an awesome but obscure plugin compressor with a very small following. If you make a good macro system tied in with good presets then this could potentially take off very suddenly and become the "next big thing" for mixing. The potential and quality of sound is there in spades..
2) Bug squashing
The plugin is buuuuuuugggy as hell. It's possible to break tons of the different sections within the plugin where it stops working until you delete the plugin and restart. Luckily you can first SAVE the settings, then delete the plugin from the session and reopen it and reload the preset and continue from there.
Many times a knob doesn't do what it is supposed to do.. if this happens, you need to do what I just described above. Many of the features that are sometimes really subtle to hear can randomly break (usually when you tweak something else that causes the whole feature to go "out of bounds") and not do what they are supposed to do. This can lead to a lot of frustration.
I have not had any crashes yet, except one single crash when I registered the plugin after purchase (when I hit the register button Reaper crashed to desktop).
3) The user manual
Either as a PDF or in a proper high quality video tutorial format. I suggest hiring external help. The current videos do not count at all, they have very bad production quality and are extremely difficult and frankly annoying to listen to. If you want to do video manuals they need to be done properly with a script and planning. There should be no ".. umm, what is it called?? ummmm.... you know.. ummmm??" and should be properly recorded with a high quality microphone and no room reflections and background noises of children.
Once you have these 3 points properly done you can bump up the price to 99+ euros and keep going from there. At the current 19 euro price I can only recommend this to crazy people like myself who can sort of dive into the thing and grok it after a lot of trial and error but I would not use this for any real production work as it is.. and no, the "presets" are nowhere near the actual devices that they try to emulate. Some of them are completely off and not even remotely in the same ballpark and most of them are "similar but not really".
However, if you are an adventurous soul and you want to make your own dynamics processors then this is a similar place to start as Ariesverb is for reverbs and modulation/delay effects. Absolutely excellent/world class results can be had with some careful tinkering and a lot of patience.
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- Banned
- 368 posts since 16 Dec, 2021
Could not get the AU working in Logic or the VST3 in Reaper
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 23 Feb, 2013
I feel like over 90% of people don't know how to use a compressor with 3 parameters.
(before you attack me, consider that I might be including myself here)
(before you attack me, consider that I might be including myself here)
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 9 Jul, 2022
You can redownload using the linkin your mail.TBlake wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:56 pm has anyone been able to get the this working on macOS mojave???
Binary were not universal in the last release,
If you see binary size ~ 12mb it is ok, otherwise (~6mb) it means they are not universal.
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- Banned
- 368 posts since 16 Dec, 2021
Happy to report it's working now!kalaspace wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:57 amYou can redownload using the linkin your mail.TBlake wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:56 pm has anyone been able to get the this working on macOS mojave???
Binary were not universal in the last release,
If you see binary size ~ 12mb it is ok, otherwise (~6mb) it means they are not universal.