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✅ Balanced response:
It’s true that Den didn’t create the playback engine itself — he’s using an existing sampler (like many sound designers or synthesis developers do).

However, a new synthesis method doesn’t require a new engine, only a new approach or algorithm for sound creation using existing tools.

Think of how FM synthesis became a patentable method in the 1970s — not because Yamaha built a new DAC, but because the structure of the frequency modulation process was new.

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If someone else comes along with their own 'modular frequency-domain instrument-building kit, where they say 'the sample content is organized by spectral logic, not by traditional patch layering' would that be your 'new method', or theirs?
The idea of Frequency Block Synthesis might occur to someone else as well, but what Den has developed from that idea is his own unique synthesis method.
Even if the core concept ('building a new instrument from frequency blocks') is not entirely unprecedented,
Den’s specific implementation — his algorithm, system, and resulting sound — is unique, and therefore it is his synthesis method.

Den’s method consists of the following steps:

Breaking down the sounds of multiple different instruments into n frequency bands (currently 8 pcs),

Selecting and combining these frequency bands across sources,

Reconstructing a new instrument from these blocks — potentially even as a hybrid with subtractive elements.

This kind of process is not typical of other known synthesis methods.

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case closed, story ended, mic dropped.
🎯 Final summary:
Even though Den uses an existing playback engine, what makes Frequency Block Synthesis potentially patentable is the specific technique and structure for constructing new instruments from modular frequency-domain components across multiple samples.
The innovation lies in the algorithmic logic and spectral design approach, not the platform itself.

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Innovative synthesis wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:03 pmHowever, a new synthesis method doesn’t require a new engine, only a new approach or algorithm for sound creation using existing tools.
Playing back samples in a sample playback engine isnt a new approach or algorithm.
Think of how FM synthesis became a patentable method in the 1970s — not because Yamaha built a new DAC
well, of course not. Yamaha didnt patent FM synthesis.
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Innovative synthesis wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:07 pm Den’s specific implementation — his algorithm, system, and resulting sound — is unique, and therefore it is his synthesis method.
False. If you have to claim that the result is the implementation, then you have no valid argument.

Prove its patentable the real way; get the patent.
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Hey people. I'm proud to announce that here is a cheap version of FBS synthesized instruments as .sf2 file. My gosh: an .sf2 file that brings instruments to live via synthesis? Yes. You may create new instruments by editing this .sf2 and without adding any external samples, you may be able to build new instruments and sounds in an .sf2 file. Nothing new, nothing synthesis. It does via miracle!
https://denmusic.hu/index.php?route=pro ... duct_id=99

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well, of course not. Yamaha didnt patent FM synthesis.
Neither Den did it.

But Den got copyright on software, based on method of his, called Frequency Block Synthesis.

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Innovative synthesis wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:46 pm Hey people. I'm proud to announce that here is a cheap version of FBS synthesized instruments as .sf2 file. My gosh: an .sf2 file that brings instruments to live via synthesis? Yes. You may create new instruments by editing this .sf2 and without adding any external samples, you may be able to build new instruments and sounds in an .sf2 file. Nothing new, nothing synthesis. It does via miracle!
https://denmusic.hu/index.php?route=pro ... duct_id=99
I love the 'but Im a big boy' tone to the blurb: "This is the first ever built soundfont file (.sf2) that creates sounds by a real synthesis method"
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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Playing back samples in a sample playback engine isnt a new approach or algorithm.
Ne w approach is how you build the sound. It's brutally new as a system or as a method.

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Innovative synthesis wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:49 pm
well, of course not. Yamaha didnt patent FM synthesis.
Neither Den did it.

But Den got copyright on software, based on method of his, called Frequency Block Synthesis.
Everyone gets copyright on their samples, and the files of software they developed, whether they claim a fancy name for them or not. But you sure ain't got copyright on the method. Nor would you get a patent. You know, because its not a new method, its just sample layering.

And why do you keep talking about yourself in the 3rd person?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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Innovative synthesis wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:52 pm Ne w approach is how you build the sound. It's brutally new as a system or as a method.
Nope.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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I love the 'but Im a big boy' tone to the blurb: "This is the first ever built soundfont file (.sf2) that creates sounds by a real synthesis method"
You were not careful in listening to the end:
Nothing new, nothing synthesis, miracle!
That's FBS's motto!

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Innovative synthesis wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:57 pm
I love the 'but Im a big boy' tone to the blurb: "This is the first ever built soundfont file (.sf2) that creates sounds by a real synthesis method"
You were not careful in listening to the end:
Nothing new, nothing synthesis, miracle!
That's FBS's motto!
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An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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whiterabbitorwhothehellyouare: It is an abuse in a gif! I don't like it, it hurts. If you think that I would treat you on the left, while me the one on the right, you are wrong. I'm not that kind. Please cancel it. It's a low mental level post.
Of course FBS is a brilliant new synthesis method.

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i turned all the wavs upside down! i invented a new synthesis!!!
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