Are AI-Generated Songs Ethical? Let's Talk About It.

[koalaboy]

I gave it (your version of the song) to ChatGPT with my super secret instructions and fully customized system prompt

It looks like ChatGPT can count syllables!? Last time I was checking it out, AI just couldn't do it. Did you need any special instructions to make it so?

It's constantly improving. If 'last time' was more than a month or so, then likely you're quite far behind (Depending on which 'AI' you use, of course).

[starflakeprj]

I use Suno to create music for two different reasons...

1. For inspiration, e,g. experimental music where I fuse together two or more different styles to hear what it can sound like, and then use this inspiration to try to create my own music based on that.

2. Create artists that can sing my song lyrics, or old poems I have written, in a style I find suitable for my lyrics.

I have never published anything officially (except on my Facebook wall for friends).

I use ChatGPT sometimes to help me express myself in a better way, either by extending/changing poems so they work better as song lyrics, or as help when I'm stuck in the writing process, when I have an idea of what the song lyrics should contain but not finding the words. And also to correct any grammar or spelling mistakes.

Personally I don't think this is immoral or non-ethical.

Edit: I actually use Suno for three purposes. Upload own bits of created music at "remix" them as different genres just to hear how they could sound in other styles.

[dune_rave]

Dont matter if its ethical ornot, not thats the main thing.
YOU DONT HAVE ANY RIGHTS over this generated music.
The lyrics may be yours if they don't obtain that too...
To sum things up: This is not your music, and its not your music legally.

[starflakeprj]

Dont matter if its ethical ornot, not thats the main thing.
YOU DONT HAVE ANY RIGHTS over this generated music.
The lyrics may be yours if they don't obtain that too...
To sum things up: This is not your music, and its not your music legally.

There’s no court ruling stating that AI generated music like this is illegal, especially not for personal use. I’m simply enjoying the output privately. That’s not a legal violation and no copyright laws are being broken. So your claim simply isn’t accurate

[dune_rave]

Dont matter if its ethical ornot, not thats the main thing.
YOU DONT HAVE ANY RIGHTS over this generated music.
The lyrics may be yours if they don't obtain that too...
To sum things up: This is not your music, and its not your music legally.

There’s no court ruling stating that AI generated music like this is illegal, especially not for personal use. I’m simply enjoying the output privately. That’s not a legal violation and no copyright laws are being broken. So your claim simply isn’t accurate

I just say you dont own that music, you dont have owner rights.
You are just anAI user, and have such rights.

[starflakeprj]

Dont matter if its ethical ornot, not thats the main thing.
YOU DONT HAVE ANY RIGHTS over this generated music.
The lyrics may be yours if they don't obtain that too...
To sum things up: This is not your music, and its not your music legally.

There’s no court ruling stating that AI generated music like this is illegal, especially not for personal use. I’m simply enjoying the output privately. That’s not a legal violation and no copyright laws are being broken. So your claim simply isn’t accurate

I just say you dont own that music, you dont have owner rights.
You are just anAI user, and have such rights.

And I don't claim the rights either. I would claim the rights to any music I create that is inspired by output from Suno though, as I'm not intending to copy the arrangement or notes, but rather getting inspired by the style.

[dune_rave]

You dont claim the rights, but they can use the music you generate. Maybe they take your lyrics and sell it as their music.

[starflakeprj]

You dont claim the rights, but they can use the music you generate. Maybe they take your lyrics and sell it as their music.

To be honest, I didn't actually think about that Good point! I could use Suno for inspiration though, then create something based on that style and use Synthesizer V or ACE Studio for the lyrics.

[dune_rave]

You dont claim the rights, but they can use the music you generate. Maybe they take your lyrics and sell it as their music.

To be honest, I didn't actually think about that Good point! I could use Suno for inspiration though, then create something based on that style and use Synthesizer V or ACE Studio for the lyrics.

: ) if i need inspiration i listen to some music(from an existing human). But people are different

[starflakeprj]

You dont claim the rights, but they can use the music you generate. Maybe they take your lyrics and sell it as their music.

To be honest, I didn't actually think about that Good point! I could use Suno for inspiration though, then create something based on that style and use Synthesizer V or ACE Studio for the lyrics.

: ) if i need inspiration i listen to some music(from an existing human). But people are different

Well, I'm having a hard time finding the kind of experimental music I can get with prompting. Which is mostly why I use Suno. To create something that is, kind of, unique.

[enroe]

The AIs are fun to play with, I particularly enjoy having them compose rap songs based on whatever I prefer, like a rap song about golf. I make these at work sometimes for a quick laugh with my non-musical coworkers.

That’s about it.

I use Suno to create music for two different reasons...

1. For inspiration, e,g. experimental music where I fuse together two or
more different styles to hear what it can sound like, and then use this
inspiration to try to create my own music based on that.

2. Create artists that can sing my song lyrics, or old poems I have
written, in a style I find suitable for my lyrics.

Interesting: The way you both, "pekbro" and "starflakeprj," use AI is,
abstractly speaking, just like operating a jukebox in a pub. Or
operating the record player or CD player.

Because in all these cases, you figure out in your head what you
want to hear and how, and then choose it: on the Jukebox, from
your record collection, or on CD. Or on ChatGPT or Suno.

It's pure selection and pure consumption – without having played
or edited any notes yourself. Without having made any creative
contribution yourself. It's therefore "selecting music to listen to."

It is not: "composing and play music yourself".

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Conclusion: AI is apparently causing many people who are on the
verge of their own creativity to not make the effort to be creative,
but rather to pursue pure consumption, listening to music. Unless,
of course, you let the AI result inspire you to start your own
composition - but how often does that happen?

[eassae]

Unless, of course, you let the AI result inspire you to start your own composition - but how often does that happen?

I know people will, and have given AI more inspiration than AI will ever give in return

[ghettosynth]

The AIs are fun to play with, I particularly enjoy having them compose rap songs based on whatever I prefer, like a rap song about golf. I make these at work sometimes for a quick laugh with my non-musical coworkers.

That’s about it.

I use Suno to create music for two different reasons...

1. For inspiration, e,g. experimental music where I fuse together two or
more different styles to hear what it can sound like, and then use this
inspiration to try to create my own music based on that.

2. Create artists that can sing my song lyrics, or old poems I have
written, in a style I find suitable for my lyrics.

Interesting: The way you both, "pekbro" and "starflakeprj," use AI is,
abstractly speaking, just like operating a jukebox in a pub. Or
operating the record player or CD player.

Because in all these cases, you figure out in your head what you
want to hear and how, and then choose it: on the Jukebox, from
your record collection, or on CD. Or on ChatGPT or Suno.

It's pure selection and pure consumption – without having played
or edited any notes yourself. Without having made any creative
contribution yourself. It's therefore "selecting music to listen to."

It is not: "composing and play music yourself".

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Conclusion: AI is apparently causing many people who are on the
verge of their own creativity to not make the effort to be creative,
but rather to pursue pure consumption, listening to music. Unless,
of course, you let the AI result inspire you to start your own
composition - but how often does that happen?

Kind of like how a conductor doesn't play a note, no? Or, how a director doesn't act a single line, right?

[pekbro]

I only use it at work for a joke, when I’m at home making some music, I compose everything
and play it, since that’s the only way I can do it.
I can’t really use a piano roll, I have to record
a performance. All the music skills are in my head and automatic.

[eassae]

Kind of like how a conductor doesn't play a note, no? Or, how a director doesn't act a single line, right?