Updated synth from AudioThing named JULY (modernized Juno emulation)

[telecharge]

Let us have Oktoberfest for JULY!

[Gam456]

Sigmund, Fazortan, Nithonat, Decimort... those aren't very good names in my opinion. To me they're unappealing and don't make me think, "Ooo I have to see what this product is all about!" I suppose they could be worse.

D16. Oh yes. I love their product, but evry single time, I forget who is who

For analog vibe, I have a lot from Gforce, Softube, Arturia, Tal... but Diva rulez all of them
For more complex analog vibe, I go to my Summit

So June or July. I have many of similar vst doing the same simple synth

[mrbbojahr]

With these sounds, I want to play an 80's style party tonight! Junah and Prophet burning down the house! Lets go go go!

Yes, that’s exactly what I’d love to see happen!

My kids always say I’m stuck in the ’80s and ’90s. But whatever - I love a lot of music from that era, and there’s still so much I’m learning and working on.

[SAGG]

With these sounds, I want to play an 80's style party tonight! Junah and Prophet burning down the house! Lets go go go!

Yes, that’s exactly what I’d love to see happen!

My kids always say I’m stuck in the ’80s and ’90s. But whatever - I love a lot of music from that era, and there’s still so much I’m learning and working on.

They forget that girls they are listening to today wouldn't happen without the 80's and 90's all them Gagas and Swifties and Lipa Dipa (aka Dula Peeps) and Sabrinas and Chappelles..

Cindy Lauper and Madonna called the other day, said they want their acts back

[BBFG#]

They're just a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy without anything ground breaking or new.
B.OT;
I've never thought the Juno series was anything good really. Every software plugin of it is better than the original hardware IMO. And as someone who considers every plugin that runs on all three OSs (esp. Linux), I would ask how this one compares specifically to the TAL version?

[4_the masses]

They're just a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy without anything ground breaking or new.
B.OT;
I've never thought the Juno series was anything good really. Every software plugin of it is better than the original hardware IMO. And as someone who considers every plugin that runs on all three OSs (esp. Linux), I would ask how this one compares specifically to the TAL version?

Totally agree. How many more Roland 80'S emu's is really needed ? Why don't Dev's look at other instruments and actually enhance them ? There is loads of Korg / Yamaha / Teisco / ARP that always get ignored, most dev's just remix and remake the same old synths.

[wagtunes]

They're just a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy without anything ground breaking or new.
B.OT;
I've never thought the Juno series was anything good really. Every software plugin of it is better than the original hardware IMO. And as someone who considers every plugin that runs on all three OSs (esp. Linux), I would ask how this one compares specifically to the TAL version?

Totally agree. How many more Roland 80'S emu's is really needed ? Why don't Dev's look at other instruments and actually enhance them ? There is loads of Korg / Yamaha / Teisco / ARP that always get ignored, most dev's just remix and remake the same old synths.

As much as I feel the same way, here is the reality that we all have to accept whether we want to or not. I will explain with an example.

Many years ago when I first started writing songs, I bought a very odd synth. The name doesn't matter as most of you would have never heard of it anyway. Point is, I have sold it since and would love to have a VST version of it.

It will never happen.

Why?

Because maybe a half dozen people would buy it.

The reality is, developers need to make money and they're not going to make money with very rare synths. So they make synths that they know will have a demand.

Accept it, don't accept it. That is the reality of it all.

[SAGG]

we can still get a few odd, obscure choices from a couple of vendors. Carlo stated he did JEN SX1000 just for funsies, not expecting great returns. doubtful it was his bestseller.

Cherry Audio does both popular takes and less so ones. they'd do stuff like Pro Soloist, Quadra, Chroma, Crumar Spirit and BIT (if the best guess is true), Octave CAT, EDP Wasp, Polivoks. Trident. not even Korg have their own bloody Trident done.

with these guys we can expect a few "odd ones out" and that's awesome. and they do that shit along with the same oldies Mini D, Prophet and Jupiter, so win-win! they even went with Prophet-10 for their version, gave the grandpa some extra gas in his ass.

[BBFG#]

Well. The first part of my comment had nothing to do with the plugins...

That's why I went back on topic after it.

Still interested in a comparison of this to TAL though. However opinionated it is.
I don't have either. But I'm sure I do have other company versions of it. Even if I don't really use them.

[pekbro]

I have both (TAL and AT), I consider them very different and distinct from ea other and both very good.

I like JULY, but still have the previous version, I guess that will run until I need to re-authorize for whatever reason, since it's absent from the product db?

My friend is a regional sales mgr for Roland, pretty much a dream gig, I must say, even if they are an evil empire.

[Vortifex]

Still interested in a comparison of this to TAL though.

In terms of sound character there's barely anything in it. So it comes down to features and UI/UX. JULY benefits from an extra envelope, one extra LFO shape, four effects compared to TAL's two (both have a reverb and delay but JULY also has a phaser and overdrive), two different chorus models (which correctly sum to mono when both modes are engaged, unlike the TAL), a slightly more capable arpeggiator, max poly of 32 compared to TAL's 12 (although TAL's polyphonic unison doesn't reduce the voice count when you increase the unison amount), and a choice of three octaves for the sub osc. It also uses less CPU than the TAL.

TAL has per voice control of cutoff/pan/detune/ADR, unison stereo spread, and can load .tun files for microtuning. Subjectively I think the reverb is more useful than the spring reverb in JULY.

So JULY wins on features, but for me the TAL wins on UI/UX, because everything except the per voice control is on one page, whereas with JULY you have to tab between a page with the effects and a page with the main volume control and unison. You can actually tab between these on the product page: https://www.audiothing.net/instruments/july/ Also the second envelope is tabbed behind the first one.

So if you don't mind a bit of minimal tabbing, JULY is the better option IMO. But as a TAL owner I don't feel like I'm missing out if I don't buy this.

[audiojunkie]

Still interested in a comparison of this to TAL though.

In terms of sound character there's barely anything in it. So it comes down to features and UI/UX. JULY benefits from an extra envelope, one extra LFO shape, four effects compared to TAL's two (both have a reverb and delay but JULY also has a phaser and overdrive), two different chorus models (which correctly sum to mono when both modes are engaged, unlike the TAL), a slightly more capable arpeggiator, max poly of 32 compared to TAL's 12 (although TAL's polyphonic unison doesn't reduce the voice count when you increase the unison amount), and a choice of three octaves for the sub osc. It also uses less CPU than the TAL.

TAL has per voice control of cutoff/pan/detune/ADR, unison stereo spread, and can load .tun files for microtuning. Subjectively I think the reverb is more useful than the spring reverb in JULY.

So JULY wins on features, but for me the TAL wins on UI/UX, because everything except the per voice control is on one page, whereas with JULY you have to tab between a page with the effects and a page with the main volume control and unison. You can actually tab between these on the product page: https://www.audiothing.net/instruments/july/ Also the second envelope is tabbed behind the first one.

So if you don't mind a bit of minimal tabbing, JULY is the better option IMO. But as a TAL owner I don't feel like I'm missing out if I don't buy this.

Is the sound character different enough that if you have Repro, JULY is still useful without a huge amount of overlap?

[wagtunes]

I just picked up their SX 1000. Cool synth.

[Vortifex]

Is the sound character different enough that if you have Repro, JULY is still useful without a huge amount of overlap?

I mean it's Prophet vs Juno isn't it. The only main feature you're getting extra with JULY is polyphonic unison. Personally I find the filter and envelopes on the Juno more satisfying, but you can't make it sound like a Prophet or vice versa. Depends how much you value the difference.

[audiojunkie]

Is the sound character different enough that if you have Repro, JULY is still useful without a huge amount of overlap?

I mean it's Prophet vs Juno isn't it. The only main feature you're getting extra with JULY is polyphonic unison. Personally I find the filter and envelopes on the Juno more satisfying, but you can't make it sound like a Prophet or vice versa. Depends how much you value the difference.

Well, yeah. That's why I was asking. One thing I've been enjoying a lot lately, is taking simple, but great sounding synths of different types, and layering them to create big sounds--for example, a Yamaha DX7 (Chipsynth OPS7) layered with a Roland Juno (JULY), with a granular like Quanta 2.... for example. I tend to have as much or more fun creating a big layered sound like this rather than with a single synth.

Based on what I've researched, Repro 1/5 is really good at Bass, Brass hits, Funk/electro stabs, expressive poly leads, and a vintage "American" analog tone. JULY, on the other hand seems to excel at pads, strings, arps, warm chords beds, and the classic Italio/synthpop/ambient sound. So to me, I'm thinking that the two might be complimentary--Prophet/Pro One character, vs Juno 60 character. But then again, they are still just simple synths. So that's why I wanted to get others' opinions as to whether it's worth it to have both.