SX3 already has offline batch processing, if I understand what you mean by that term.stag wrote:i wish that SX3 had offline batch processing IMO that´s a functionallity that only who has used it knows how much the work flow is increased.
No, people steal BMW's because BMW's are worth alot of money even on the black market. BMW's aren't at all overpriced, the car manufacturers generally sell cars at or below the break even point and make their profit mainly from selling spare parts for their cars. And there is a big difference between stealing a car and stealing software: If someone steals a car from a BMW dealer that dealer actually loose a car. When someone steals Nuendo by downloding it off the web Steinberg, or a dealer, doesn't loose a copy. Most people who would do this couldn't afford to buy a copy anyways and in that case there is no loss for any part, and this may influence the mentality of software pirates. People in general look at software piracy as a less severe offense then stealing actual (material) property, and in many cases it actually is.DevonB wrote: So with your logic, you see why people steal BMW's; because they're overpriced.
Yes I know how much it costs to run a company since that is what put's bread on my table. I run a small IT-consultant firm targeting clients in the agricultural field. It is called "Nano consulting group", but since A) it's small (5 employees) and B) it is situated in Sweden, I don't think you would know about it. I never said it is cheap or easy to run a business, I just said that equippment for musicians are often overpriced. It costs just as much to produce, market etc products in other fields so why the prices?DevonB wrote: Oh, so you know how much it costs to run a business yourself? Which business do you run, and run successfully? Companies charge to make a profit, AND to stay afloat. Time to market eats a HUGE chunk of your money. Do you think these people work for free until the product is out? You've got to feed your family somehow! Not to mention,, if you have a staff of 10 coders, probably making a minimum of let's just say $60k, that's $600,000 just for their salaries, not including benefits, Social Security, etc etc etc etc. Let's add building rental, utilites, and insurance. Then what about advertisement afterwards? Ad campaigns aren't cheap if you want name recognition for your product. Go check to see how much running one full page color ad in a popular magazine will cost you for one month. Multiple that by multiple months and multiple magazines. Keep in mind, subscription bases for magazines are low, say 25k. Then think about how many are just on newsstands, and not to an actual subscriber base, so you lose that much facetime. Let's not forget manufacturing costs of the products, the supply line to keep it going, trying to figure out how much to stock of that product, and pray you don't get into an overstock situation that you have hundreds of your products just collecting dust, because that's a loss right there. Ok, I'll stop. I just get irritated when people seem to think they know how cheap it is to run a business. It's not.
Devon
Duh...SX has offline processing but don´t save it has batch.cold c wrote:SX3 already has offline batch processing, if I understand what you mean by that term.stag wrote:i wish that SX3 had offline batch processing IMO that´s a functionallity that only who has used it knows how much the work flow is increased.
-Open the audio pool.
-Import the files you want.
-Highlight the files.
-Right-click, and choose whatever plugin or process you want.
-Click process
Huh! Didn't know that - that's indeed quite cool!stag wrote: EG: you have a guitar sound you think it´s all rigth ,like EQ ,compression ,Amplitube ,some weird stuff and more compression.
Nuendo saves it as batch ,next time you want to process similar signal it´s just a click away.
ain´t that grand???
Mbox is a "great soundcard"?!?!scandipandy wrote:The Protools host is FREE, just get a great soundcard (like Mbox) for $400 and you have a killer host app included.Kingston wrote:sounds like the average "professional post production" pricing. ie. it's not good enough unless it costs a lot. Welcome to the world of protools.
Stop bashing on protools in a Steinberg thread
Yes, figure scating is a favorite hobby of mineKingston wrote:Go figure.
And PT LE is a killer host app?!?!? What color is the sky in your world?So maybe you could start a company that builds a DAW that is as good as anything out there and sell the software for $100.00. If you can do it you will be sell a boat load and probably be quite wealthy. I just think it is funny when people say things like "No software should have a pricetag over $100". Tell that to people trying to run a software business...I feel pretty confidant they would disagree. You are apparently only taking into account some dev. time. What about marketing, business costs, sales margins, etc?fractalism wrote:bewing77 exellent post!
I completely agree with you!
Most audio software is overpriced!
You would never dream of paying $200+ for a computergame that has taken maybe 2 or more years to develop, but a VST plug or similar with perhaps 6 months or so of dev. time easily goes for $200+
No software should have a pricetag over $100..
It's "okay" as a USB device...definitely not "great". Ahh....just noticed the wink...nevermind..hehe..ttoz wrote:actually as far as USB interfaces go it's pretty good. There's nothing wrong with protools as an app eitherLoRez wrote:Mbox is a "great soundcard"?!?!scandipandy wrote:The Protools host is FREE, just get a great soundcard (like Mbox) for $400 and you have a killer host app included.Kingston wrote:sounds like the average "professional post production" pricing. ie. it's not good enough unless it costs a lot. Welcome to the world of protools.
Stop bashing on protools in a Steinberg thread
Yes, figure scating is a favorite hobby of mineKingston wrote:Go figure.
ok, sorry, Focusrite mic preamp is very bad sounding and a host with native sicechaning pluginformat just sux...LoRez wrote:Mbox is a "great soundcard"?!?!scandipandy wrote:The Protools host is FREE, just get a great soundcard (like Mbox) for $400 and you have a killer host app included.Kingston wrote:sounds like the average "professional post production" pricing. ie. it's not good enough unless it costs a lot. Welcome to the world of protools.
Stop bashing on protools in a Steinberg thread
Yes, figure scating is a favorite hobby of mineKingston wrote:Go figure.
duh.. what about saving mixer channels?stag wrote:Duh...SX has offline processing but don´t save it has batch.cold c wrote:SX3 already has offline batch processing, if I understand what you mean by that term.stag wrote:i wish that SX3 had offline batch processing IMO that´s a functionallity that only who has used it knows how much the work flow is increased.
-Open the audio pool.
-Import the files you want.
-Highlight the files.
-Right-click, and choose whatever plugin or process you want.
-Click process
EG: you have a guitar sound you think it´s all rigth ,like EQ ,compression ,Amplitube ,some weird stuff and more compression.
Nuendo saves it as batch ,next time you want to process similar signal it´s just a click away.
ain´t that grand???
Sorry but the mic pre's in the MBox are not anything to rave about. And because PTLE has plugs that can sidechain make it a "killer host app"? C'mon now. I could name a slew of things that suck about it...the track count and the midi implementation to start with. And I guess the last part was suggesting that my knowledge of PTLE is second-hand. Funny. All I'm saying is I thought your contention was overstated by a long shot and I stick by that. Mbox and PTLE is useable but by no means "great" or "killer".scandipandy wrote:ok, sorry, Focusrite mic preamp is very bad sounding and a host with native sicechaning pluginformat just sux...LoRez wrote:Mbox is a "great soundcard"?!?!scandipandy wrote:The Protools host is FREE, just get a great soundcard (like Mbox) for $400 and you have a killer host app included.Kingston wrote:sounds like the average "professional post production" pricing. ie. it's not good enough unless it costs a lot. Welcome to the world of protools.
Stop bashing on protools in a Steinberg thread
Yes, figure scating is a favorite hobby of mineKingston wrote:Go figure.
the color of my sky is based on my eye vision, not second hand info...
Nuendo can go all the way to 10.2 surround. Vegas only goes to 5.1. *AND* to boot - when you use a Mackie-style controller with Vegas, the master fader only controls the front two positions, leaving the surrounds and LFE unchanged. Ick.munchkin wrote:Nuendo does have better surround options compared to other hosts but not to Vegas and DVD Architect.
PDC didn't work correctlly in Sonar with used with UAD-1 for the longest time - dunno if it ever got fixed. Steinberg has had a longer, more mature PDC implementation, and it shows. The Studio Connections protocol extends that into areas that Sonar hasn't thought about yet.munchkin wrote:Some people here are making a big play out of PDC but Sonar has had that for ages.
Nuendo is not better in every respect, but it "charts" well enough in all aspects to set it above the rest. You will always find something that will do a particular function as well or better than Nuendo, but you won't find one that does all of them as well. That's not justifying an investment, that's the voice of experience and reality. Sonar and Vegas are great apps - but they *AIN'T* Nuendo.munchkin wrote:If you've spent all that money on Nuendo I suppose you have to convince everyone it's the best and worth every penny.
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