It's time for REASON 3 beta testing ...

[deggy]

I apologize for more potty mouth

[Amberience]

Dumbasses .. Propellerheads have stated catagorically HUNDREDS of times before that VST support is out of the question!!

The same with audio recording.

And as a business they'd never let commercial reality interfere with their credibility, huh?

You want Reason to be something that its not, you want it to be able to do everything, but its never been about trying to do everything. It has one function - as a workstation synth.

Its like Wusikstation, or Sampletank - they're all close ended to a degree, and they still make sound.

[nuffink]

Dumbasses .. Propellerheads have stated catagorically HUNDREDS of times before that VST support is out of the question!!

The same with audio recording.

And as a business they'd never let commercial reality interfere with their credibility, huh?

You want Reason to be something that its not, you want it to be able to do everything,

Yes, I do.

[Amberience]

Dumbasses .. Propellerheads have stated catagorically HUNDREDS of times before that VST support is out of the question!!

The same with audio recording.

And as a business they'd never let commercial reality interfere with their credibility, huh?

You want Reason to be something that its not, you want it to be able to do everything,

Yes, I do.

Well thats why you're disapointed with the program. Nobody - not even the magazines - said Reason did anything that it doesn't do .... so you're being irrational.

Move on. Let it go. Peace love and unity and all that crap.

[nuffink]

Dumbasses .. Propellerheads have stated catagorically HUNDREDS of times before that VST support is out of the question!!

The same with audio recording.

And as a business they'd never let commercial reality interfere with their credibility, huh?

You want Reason to be something that its not, you want it to be able to do everything,

Yes, I do.

Well thats why you're disapointed with the program. Nobody - not even the magazines - said Reason did anything that it doesn't do .... so you're being irrational.

Move on. Let it go. Peace love and unity and all that crap.

I'm far from disappointed by it. It's a fine app. However it does attract a kind of glee club that makes me go all... xg2.

[Amberience]

Well I'm not too bothered by it. People can love whatever they wanna love ...including sheep.

[AD80]

I agree with Nuffink.

Lets see how much they've expanded Reason in 3.0. I hope its a hell of a lot cuz I know the next update is comming in 2007 .
The Combinator looks pretty cool. They finally came up with a way to deal with their own bulky interfaces. And group effects and synths together. So far I'm not too impressed since I've had the same ability in Tracktion and EXT for a long time now. But it is a welcome addition.

[Meffy]

makes me go all... xg2.

Down the hall, second door on your right. ;-)

Meffy

[pitchdrifter]

sound on sound has a short preview with an explanation of what reason 3 has and what it doesn't have.

[xg2]

sound on sound has a short preview with an explanation of what reason 3 has and what it doesn't have.

My point entirely...

They can preview Reason 3, but not even review one tracker. Would it be okay if all of the mags. refused to review VSTs and only reviewed hardware? Wouldn't VSTs be viewed as somehow 'underground' because of this? And wouldn't their programmers suffer from less sales, less publicity, and wouldn't this be unreasonable and unfair?

Reason would have been incredible if it was the only softsynth workstation in the world, and VSTs didn't exist. That I totally agree with. But that isn't reality, and never will be.

[AD80]

sound on sound has a short preview with an explanation of what reason 3 has and what it doesn't have.

Wow that is a very weak and dissapointing review so far especially for a couple of years worth of work. But its still real early so I'm sure theres many more new things in Reason3. Atleast I hope so.

[quincy]

sound on sound has a short preview with an explanation of what reason 3 has and what it doesn't have.

My point entirely...

They can preview Reason 3, but not even review one tracker. Would it be okay if all of the mags. refused to review VSTs and only reviewed hardware? Wouldn't VSTs be viewed as somehow 'underground' because of this? And wouldn't their programmers suffer from less sales, less publicity, and wouldn't this be unreasonable and unfair?

Reason would have been incredible if it was the only softsynth workstation in the world, and VSTs didn't exist. That I totally agree with. But that isn't reality, and never will be.

Give it a rest for all our sakes

Reasons limitations are why some don't by it, and why other love it. its a matter of opinion for f**ks sake.

Some like to focus on one set of tools and push them to do as much as possible. Some (like you and me) like the flexibility of VST hosting.

My point is....WHO GIVES A SHIT?! Let the people who like reason like it and get on with, its none of your concern.

[headquest]

KvR doesn't have a Reason section. It doesn't have Reason tutorials, and it doesn't have anything newsworthy about Reason either.

You guys all say that its because Reason is not open-ended.

But then you complain when people want to only use Reason. What more of an opportunity do you get to convert Reason users to "Rewirers" than the opportunity of having the number one Reason forum on the net.

Anyone who comes here for whatever reason will inevitably discover something new that tickles their fancy.

Personally, I like Reason. I think it sounds great, has great features, its the most stable program I've ever worked with, and its a great environment to work with.

Cubase, Logic and Sonar. All three are just convoluted. I don't use them.

Its Reason (soon to be 3!!), EnergyXT and Ableton Live all the way with me. I can utilise Reasons strengths and counter its weaknesses with my Live and XT.

I completely agree. The Anti-Reason brigade continually shoot themselves in the foot by overstating their case.

My guess is that all of us on this forum enjoy making music on the computer. And right now Reason is not only one of the most popular programs around, but also among the most stable and CPU friendly.

Using Live I can load maybe five or six VST instruments/effects before the CPU starts to give out.

In Reason I can load over 30 devices without any problem. And those devices! Some of the finest sounds out there, surely? RV7000 has to be up there with the BEST reverbs, and the samples in NN-XT and ReDrum are great - I use them constantly as a first port of call.

If you can;t handle that, tough. Get over it!

[quincy]

If you can;t handle that, tough. Get over it!

Hey headquest,

This is what i don't undersatnd about these arguments.

I can handle that you like reason, good for you mate, glad you've got a system you like to make music

Sure you'd accept that i prefer tracking for making beats and Live as my main host etc. No relevance to you is it?! So i doubt you'd have a go at me for my choices.

So why do some people (like XG2 and others) troll about and moan to people about their choice of software? It doesn't even affect them at all.

What the point of it?!

[Lunch Money]

xg2, do you live in a different universe?

I can't remember the last time a magazine over-hyped Reason and stated that it's the second coming. The review just quoted isn't exactly stellar...

Where on earth are you GETTING all this?

What a troll.