KVR Audio

vista · Post by **vista** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:28 pm

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Bones, do you use our beloved ORION under Limpux or Madintoss ???

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:58 pm

Back to topic:

What do you think of the supplied generic drivers (with different distributions)?

Is it a PITA or do they generally work?

LAN...

k

scandipandy · Post by **scandipandy** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:16 pm

matt_bentley wrote: Audio optimisation would occur at a system level not a gui level you ****. And no, I wouldn't support a separate gui for audio developers - because the gui that is there is designed to be useful for most tasks, not just audio apps - consistency helps any user, programmer or otherwise-

But that IS the point, a pro audio daw doesnt need to be designed for most tasks. Its should just do one thing very good and nothing else (GUI included). And you can still maintain consistency with differenciated interfaces.

matt_bentley wrote: Oh f*ck off - anybody can try to sound clever by doing a reverse-tautology on the perpetrator of just thought.

Oh cmon - anybody can try to sound clever by name dropping abstract terms on the ...

matt_bentley wrote: Learn some human user interface design basics and *grow* up-

Once again your prejustice is striking, you havent got a clue. We had the static/intelligent/modular/configuratable/mood/social interface discussion about 10 years ago. Its nothing new, just very dependent on what the discourse context are.

matt_bentley wrote: linux ain't a new invention.

You stick with the aged desktop metaphor. If you would like something new dont ask me... since I have to grow up.

skynare · Post by **skynare** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:27 pm

i think there really should be a linux cd sold by kvraudio with working-out-of-the-box alsa, jack, ardour, rosegarden, swami, fluidsynth, rezound...etc.

Better if it is based on gentoo..

Seriously, i'll pay for it.

No1234 · Post by **No1234** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:13 am

mauseoleum wrote: you missed the point completelly : due customizability penguin is organization-friendly because any workgroup (with a tech-person) can near-totally tailor it's working environment to it's own needs and not somebody else's idea on *how things should be*.

Granted - but I *didn't* miss the point. The point I was making was specifically the one you have just made - that it suits specific task, but lacks a central standardised gui and technical structure that would make it useful as a home (which, I'll clarify, is what I mean by 'desktop') environment for the general joe who doesn't have the inclination or
Standardisation is a good thing. Specialisation for specific environments where it warrants it is also good, but not quite as important, in my view.

mauseoleum wrote:at least - ask yourself what was in the boxes that spitted out the last movie you saw ... if sensitive people like moviemakers adopted penguin it MUST prove to be friendly. just imagine an animator with a slight hangover ... ouch.

Granted! Specialist purpose - applications can be made very friendly for specialist tasks... thats not the point I'm making, and which I really cannot be bothered commenting on any further - see ya.

which, on the other hand is NOT so handy for interaction *between* workgroups and practicing control/police etc.

... computer os security has _nothing_ to do with os friendliness or constructive centralisation.

that said, who cares about it?

last time I try opposing someone's bullshit viewpoint here -

No1234 · Post by **No1234** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:14 am

scandipandy wrote:But that IS the point, a pro audio daw doesnt need to be designed for most tasks. Its should just do one thing very good and nothing else (GUI included). And you can still maintain consistency with differenciated interfaces.

Incorrect - you are missing the point. Audio programmers very rarely only do music/sound work on their machines. Their situation is not different enough from ordinary users to warrant a different interface, because the interfaces currently in existance to do not interfere with audio work.

scandipandy wrote:Oh cmon - anybody can try to sound clever by name dropping abstract terms on the ...

Actually that was just what came into my head...

scandipandy wrote:Once again your prejustice is striking, you havent got a clue.

Replace 'prejudice' with intelligent opinion, 'a clue' with 'time for people who can't intelligently contribute to discussions'

You stick with the aged desktop metaphor.

The desktop metaphor doesn't even exist anymore...
things are way more abstract now, though based on the original metaphor -
and btw, thats not the point - the point is, regardless of what metaphor/construction/idea you have, standardisation is the answer if you want to get the home users into it-
'nuff said.

If you would like something new dont ask me... since I have to grow up.

Good luck with that-

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:33 pm

Please stop this senseless arguing and try to answer this:

soulata wrote:Back to topic:

What do you think of the supplied generic drivers (with different distributions)?

Is it a PITA or do they generally work?

LAN...

k

It wouldn't be for audio work.

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:44 pm

I really liked the Knoppix drivers. Therefor, I'd recommend the Knoppix-based Debian to everyone who's looking for the easiest way to install linux.

It seems to be a fact that the less bloated and more optimized a distribution is, the worse is its hardware support, the higher its requirements on the computer knowledge of the user.
(Please don't complain about the grammar of that sentence

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UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:56 pm

There was a Linux just for audio project, it closed due to licencing issues!! Cant remeber its name, it was rather odd and I couldnt get it to work. It had 2 distros it would work with: Red hat and Debian but I never did get it to work !!

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