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SJ_Digriz wrote:The "always record dry" motto is the most quoted and least followed "RULES" of all time.
It is the best motto after the "limit the master" and "the right 'Q' octave size".
The "mottos not telling me what to do" stuff not helping people.

(and yes i've been in the studio)


Sicklecell666 wrote:
scamme wrote:
Sicklecell666 wrote:If you are gonna use reverb, it's a mistake to apply the same verb across your instruments, so I have no single favorite verb I use as I often use different ones against each other.
Can't agree with you, in a mix process it is unPRO to use deferent reverbs that causing different acoustic environments to the whole mix. In a composing process it's something else.
Say what?

unPRO?

:shock:

Whatever you say, man.

:hihi:
I'm not teasing, i'm just showing my point of view so don't laugh, instead try something different - maybe you'll find it useful. we are here not to say "my way is better", we're here to learn and see the other ways to make things on their best side.
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Funkybot wrote: Create a general reverb that sounds good for your track with a really short to no pre-delay, then insert a few instances on various instruments/sends with increasing pre-delay times (and slowly compensate for things like damping, but keep most other parameters the same). I'm thinking this would really create a cool sense of space as everything would technically be in the same "room" but the pre-delay would make it sound like the location in the room is different. The Princeton 2016 has the "Position" knob which seems like it could do this pretty much by itself (if used along with the predelay knob).

The idea would be that the instruments you want more upfront would see less predelay and damping, while the instruments you'd want to sound further back in the room would have a bit more of both, the amount of which controlling how far back you want them to seem. Then you could even play with the panning of the verb a bit as well. Could be interesting to screw around with.
Just the sort of thing I was implying above... try it!

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scamme wrote:I'm not teasing, i'm just showing my point of view so don't laugh, instead try something different - maybe you'll find it useful. we are here not to say "my way is better", we're here to learn and see the other ways to make things on their best side.
Your point of view is of course valid. Me personally, I totally rely on things like delay & verb to obfuscate and conceal how dreadful my material really is..

:hihi:

See? Now I'm laughing at myself, so piss off already.

:x

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dystonia_ek wrote:
scamme wrote:
Sicklecell666 wrote:If you are gonna use reverb, it's a mistake to apply the same verb across your instruments, so I have no single favorite verb I use as I often use different ones against each other.
Can't agree with you, in a mix process it is unPRO to use deferent reverbs that causing different acoustic environments to the whole mix. In a composing process it's something else.
Depends on the sort of music you're making, no? I've heard multiple reverb types used to quite striking effect on hundreds of recordings, particularly in the electroacoustic/acousmatic sphere, where reverb becomes part of the sound texture and not merely a room simulation. Even for the creation of an acoustic space, it helps sometimes to create a sense of distance between sound sources (for example, one very close element, several at various distances within the stereo or surround field, another muffled through a wall as if in the next room, etc... - an invaluable tactic when sound designing for cinema)
What makes the difference in a mix is subtlety and meticulous attention to detail, not simply swamping everything haphazardly.
When people loosing the line between composing and mixing the sound quality goes down the toilet and some of the instruments gives the "not belong" feelings.
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scamme wrote:
dystonia_ek wrote:
scamme wrote:
Sicklecell666 wrote:If you are gonna use reverb, it's a mistake to apply the same verb across your instruments, so I have no single favorite verb I use as I often use different ones against each other.
Can't agree with you, in a mix process it is unPRO to use deferent reverbs that causing different acoustic environments to the whole mix. In a composing process it's something else.
Depends on the sort of music you're making, no? I've heard multiple reverb types used to quite striking effect on hundreds of recordings, particularly in the electroacoustic/acousmatic sphere, where reverb becomes part of the sound texture and not merely a room simulation. Even for the creation of an acoustic space, it helps sometimes to create a sense of distance between sound sources (for example, one very close element, several at various distances within the stereo or surround field, another muffled through a wall as if in the next room, etc... - an invaluable tactic when sound designing for cinema)
What makes the difference in a mix is subtlety and meticulous attention to detail, not simply swamping everything haphazardly.
When people loosing the line between composing and mixing the sound quality goes down the toilet and some of the instruments gives the "not belong" feelings.
In much contemporary music, there is little division between mixing and composition... even in pop-related subgenres (Jamaican dub comes to mind) the mixing desk is the primary instrument, as it was for me before computerising my setup.
Sound quality only goes down the toilet if you don't know what you're doing and/or aren't being meticulous enough. The specific reference was to genres (such as electroacoustic composition) in which the lines between composer and sound designer are hazy or nonexistent, and in which reverb is not always for room simulation.
One of the things that landed me my first Hollywood soundtrack contract for later this year was the sense of space and distance in my recordings, which frequently feature multiple reverbs.

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I just heard a few Sicklecell666s music and in his case he do need to use different reverbs to get the effection of "freaky Jason" movies, but in case of music with bass and minimal beats at least you'll have to make some rules.
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"Freaky Jason"?!

:shock:

:lol:

That's f**king great, man!

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Glad you agreed this time, i thought you're negative person.

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anwidaDX Free :hug:

though the retail one has so many more algos it would get lots more :hug:'s

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scamme wrote:Glad you agreed this time, i thought you're negative person.

:wink:
Of course I'm negative..

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scamme wrote:"freaky Jason"
Congrats Don... 8)

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dystonia_ek wrote:
scamme wrote:"freaky Jason"
Congrats Don... 8)
:hihi:

yeah, that's what I was thinking..I have arrived..

:party:

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I realize this is kvr....but not one of you uses an outboard reverb anymore????
I just picked up a tc m300 with 24 bit i/o, its very pretty & i think for vocals it might be my new friend (ducks from flying beer bottles)

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Sicklecell666 wrote:
dystonia_ek wrote:
scamme wrote:"freaky Jason"
Congrats Don... 8)
:hihi:

yeah, that's what I was thinking..I have arrived..

:party:
Jean Michel Jarre have that spooky track 'Ethnicolor 1', this was the first thing i thought about when i listened to your stuff.
Don't be negative look at this, maybe it'll calm you
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:hihi:
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scamme wrote:Don't be negative look at this, maybe it'll calm you
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:hihi:
You have you Paradise, I have mine..

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:D

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