KVR Audio

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:54 am

wow

you grown-ups are sure doing a great job busting up this 14-year old kid who is learning programming AND trying to offer free software in exchange for feedback

you must be so proud of your wonderful abilities

you guys are TEH OWN3Z

jesus.

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:02 am

Muff Wiggler wrote:wow you grown-ups are sure doing a great job busting up this 14-year old kid who is learning programming AND trying to offer free software in exchange for feedback

you must be so proud of your wonderful abilities

you guys are TEH OWN3Z

jesus.

Just trying to nip the problem in the bud. Now that the virus has spread to KVR, I think it's fair that everyone should know that hundreds of others (yes I said hundreds) feel the same way. But don't take my word for it. He's here now. We'll all pay the price.

--Sean

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:07 am

audiojunkie wrote:
Muff Wiggler wrote:wow you grown-ups are sure doing a great job busting up this 14-year old kid who is learning programming AND trying to offer free software in exchange for feedback

you must be so proud of your wonderful abilities

you guys are TEH OWN3Z

jesus.
Just trying to nip the problem in the bud. Now that the virus has spread to KVR, I think it's fair that everyone should know that hundreds of others (yes I said hundreds) feel the same way. But don't take my word for it. He's here now. We'll all pay the price.

--Sean

Did you read the comments of others from the site I listed? Those of us who have experienced (yes, experienced) AAFUSSY in other forums don't exactly feel friendly anymore.... we did at one time, but not anymore.

--Sean

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:34 am

yeah i can see how offended you must be by the guy

he says he's 14

he sounds like he's 14

his FREE software looks like it was made by someone who is 14

he admits hes looking for help and advice

and really, you obviously have no way to ignore his products and not use them

you are right, 'the virus has arrived', you are doing us all such a GREAT service by slagging this kid off.

oh by the way, don't worry, one day you too will be 14. yeah you'll still... <...edited 'cuz muff jumped the gun a bit, see below...>...

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:44 am

Muff Wiggler wrote:you grown-ups are sure doing a great job busting up this 14-year old kid who is learning programming AND trying to offer free software in exchange for feedback

17, actually, unless he's stopped aging. (The secret of how to do that, I'd pay for.) And from what I've read he doesn't pay any attention to feedback. :-(

Pardon some self-indulgent waybacking: When I was 14 through 17 years old, the software I wrote was judged very critically by my peers on a little corner of DARPANET (that's what the Internet was called back then) and the feedback was usually pretty sharp-edged. Well... awfully sharp-edged, really. It was what I had coming, and I wouldn't have dreamt of trying to excuse my first amateurish efforts with "I'm just fourteen, give me a break!"

Here's the thing, though: I didn't ignore criticism, even when it was openly hostile. I took the lessons to heart and, with the inspiration of (but no code gimmes from) a mentor, learned to write programs to do stuff like solving systems of differential equations in symbolic form, or generate fairly human-looking texts using transformational grammar, or plot the ephemerides for newly discovered comets (my ephemeris for Kohoutek was more accurate than several published in major magazines; I'll admit that was probably dumb luck though), play programmed rhythms using nothing but the carriage and typeball mechanisms of the one Selectric terminal we all had to share... stuff like that.

One thing I certainly never did: spam anyone.

Things have changed a bit in three decades -- mostly everything's become a lot easier, and there are a lot more choices available. But I can't see that "letting it ride" without comment will help Aafuss nowadays any more than it would've helped me back when I was first learning to hammer out code.

I'd recommend that if Aafuss really wants to produce quality software that he focus on what he considers important instead of the scatter-shot approach... and that he actually listen to criticism and take advice.

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:55 am

ok ok i will lay off

i mean indeed, his whole 6 posts here have been so invasive and over-the-top, fair enough, he's spamming scum.

good thing we've had a warning from our wizened elders, you know, before the virus really takes hold and threatens to eat kvr!

death to the shitty-coding, deaf-to-feedback, 17-year-old spammer!

who cares if it's free? he's a spammer and he doesn't listen! and we have nothing better to do!

i no longer care if he may have some slight chance of someday learning enough to do what no-one else seems capable of, and offering the world's first FREE vst host with basic sequencing, i mean, we all PAY for our hosts, that would be supa-lame anyway

BURN HIM!!!

/cue the themesong to me hopping on the bandwagon

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:58 am

You're exaggerating, mah fren'. No fires tonight. If KVR gets targeted with the same sort of spam assault he seems to be famous for elsewhere, it might be time for some barbecuing though.

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:59 am

i know, it's just late and i'm bored

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:00 am

Ah -- 'kay! :-D Speaking of barbecue, guess what I just had for supper?

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:02 am

a bass guitar teacher? well-done?

haydxn · Post by **haydxn** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:03 am

/me just had a toasted cheese sandwich! with tomato! and prawncocktailcrisps!

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:05 am

i had some salmon

aafuss · Post by **aafuss** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:07 am

That's correct-Babya Logic includes a guitar tuner application

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:13 am

Barbecued pork sandwich. Yum. With sauce that might've been just a mite too spicy. (Headfur's not supposed to sweat, is it? Whuff.)

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:15 am

I really think you should stop using the word "Logic" in your product.

You certainly wouldn't win any legal battles trying to apply that name to a music product.

Caleb

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