this thing just sounds great. the gui is excellent.. but the sound! i love it. much different than granite which i also love.
really great synth. i think it's already a hit.
New granular synth: The Mangle
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- KVRAF
- 3414 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Did any of you make some nice piece with Mangle so far?
I plan to purchase it soon
I plan to purchase it soon
Blog ------------- YouTube channel
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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- KVRist
- 126 posts since 14 Dec, 2010
Hi folks,
so I finally bought this beast. And soundwise I'm very pleased so far. But I encountered the the following issues using the mangle on a windows 7 machine with Studio One as a host:
1. Drag and drop of audio files (wav-format) into the wave window doesn't work. Loading files via the import option (folder icon) does work fine though (not the biggest failure but since the Mangle has one of the most elegant user interfaces I have come across so far it would be nice if this could be fixed.
2. I used the MIDI learn function of Studio One which is generally OK but when I turn a knob clockwise on the keyboard the corresponding knob in the Mangle turns counterclockwise (just the other way round; well I could live with that).
Anyone else out there using the Mangle in Studio One? (Hope the Sound-Guru will cure these little inconveniences some day; but no hurry - would be fine if the final release adress my problems.
Anyway this machine is something like an early Christmas gift at the current price. Think I'm gettin' a Grainiac
so I finally bought this beast. And soundwise I'm very pleased so far. But I encountered the the following issues using the mangle on a windows 7 machine with Studio One as a host:
1. Drag and drop of audio files (wav-format) into the wave window doesn't work. Loading files via the import option (folder icon) does work fine though (not the biggest failure but since the Mangle has one of the most elegant user interfaces I have come across so far it would be nice if this could be fixed.
2. I used the MIDI learn function of Studio One which is generally OK but when I turn a knob clockwise on the keyboard the corresponding knob in the Mangle turns counterclockwise (just the other way round; well I could live with that).
Anyone else out there using the Mangle in Studio One? (Hope the Sound-Guru will cure these little inconveniences some day; but no hurry - would be fine if the final release adress my problems.
Anyway this machine is something like an early Christmas gift at the current price. Think I'm gettin' a Grainiac
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286 - KVRAF
- 16772 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
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- KVRist
- 126 posts since 14 Dec, 2010
Hi Simon,
did you know that your lovely Mangle-Demo on Youtube pushed me to buy it in the end? You're one of the most talented sound designers on the planet today IMHO. Anyone who doesn't know you should at least have a look (or an ear) at patchpool. May be you are the Godfather of all Grainiacs so to speak.
Regards from Germany, Wilfried
did you know that your lovely Mangle-Demo on Youtube pushed me to buy it in the end? You're one of the most talented sound designers on the planet today IMHO. Anyone who doesn't know you should at least have a look (or an ear) at patchpool. May be you are the Godfather of all Grainiacs so to speak.
Regards from Germany, Wilfried
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16772 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
DIGIFEX wrote:Hi Simon,
did you know that your lovely Mangle-Demo on Youtube pushed me to buy it in the end? You're one of the most talented sound designers on the planet today IMHO. Anyone who doesn't know you should at least have a look (or an ear) at patchpool. May be you are the Godfather of all Grainiacs so to speak.
Regards from Germany, Wilfried
Thank you for the flowers, Wilfried, I shall add that to my vita before I go, the Godfather of Graniacs, LOL 
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- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Bought it too. Few observations:
- Preset files are crazy big. Come on, 190 MB archive for this little plugin?
- Adding keyboard split to each and every preset is quite questionable
- Position area parameters are displayed zeroed after host restart, but it seems their value is ok
- Volume and position markers shouldn't be drawn on sample area, it results in numerous misclicks. Also dragging markers around makes sample play, which is completely counter-intuitive for me.
Suggestions:
- Please add option to play loaded sample clean.
- It would be cool to add option which wraps grains around "position" area and and to dispaly loop speed in Hz
- Preset files are crazy big. Come on, 190 MB archive for this little plugin?
- Adding keyboard split to each and every preset is quite questionable
- Position area parameters are displayed zeroed after host restart, but it seems their value is ok
- Volume and position markers shouldn't be drawn on sample area, it results in numerous misclicks. Also dragging markers around makes sample play, which is completely counter-intuitive for me.
Suggestions:
- Please add option to play loaded sample clean.
- It would be cool to add option which wraps grains around "position" area and and to dispaly loop speed in Hz
Blog ------------- YouTube channel
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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- KVRAF
- 1945 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
What a cool synth, purchased.
Mac Studio M4
15.7.3
Cubase 15, Ableton Live 12
15.7.3
Cubase 15, Ableton Live 12
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- KVRAF
- 4081 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
How does it compares to granulator?
dedication to flying
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4380 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Very different, and far more superior imo. Way more modulation possibilities, granular engine sounds better and smoother, up to 8 granulators, etc.rod_zero wrote:How does it compares to granulator?
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- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
I think they complement each other. Granulator with loop, scan and FM options can make completely weird, trashy effects (as well as rolls and risers), while Mangle is aimed at more melodic content. Still, Mangle has the envelopes of common synths, so should be able to do all the hoovers, squelches and wobbles as well as regular wavetable instruments.rod_zero wrote:How does it compares to granulator?
Keep in mind that I'm new to granular synthesis and don't even plan to use it in current track.
Blog ------------- YouTube channel
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 17 Apr, 2012
Great synth so far! Works very well for me (Windows 8.1 x64, Renoise 3.0.1) and i really like the minimalistic looking GUI. I have just one question, one bug report, one feature request and one personal request. 
Question: It is possible to set "markers" via [Alt]+left mouse click, what are they good for?
Bug: Right mouse click on slot trigger opens context menu, but also "holds" the trigger which is very annoying especially with long sustain times because you have to left click the trigger again to disable it. Maybe it is not a bug but a feature, in this case the context menu shouldn't pop up if you right click on the slot trigger but only on the slot (volume slider).
Feature req: Please add more audio outputs, this would be awesome.
Personal req: Please keep the synth clean and stable, please don't add unnecessary features/fx like delay/reverb or such things that can be downloaded in masses (unless it's something very special).
Question: It is possible to set "markers" via [Alt]+left mouse click, what are they good for?
Bug: Right mouse click on slot trigger opens context menu, but also "holds" the trigger which is very annoying especially with long sustain times because you have to left click the trigger again to disable it. Maybe it is not a bug but a feature, in this case the context menu shouldn't pop up if you right click on the slot trigger but only on the slot (volume slider).
Feature req: Please add more audio outputs, this would be awesome.
Personal req: Please keep the synth clean and stable, please don't add unnecessary features/fx like delay/reverb or such things that can be downloaded in masses (unless it's something very special).
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- KVRAF
- 2633 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union
BTW good idea, i think it would be a first grain sampler with multiple outputs (for each voice, well or layer).spktkpkt wrote: Feature req: Please add more audio outputs,
Also agree. Additional processes is good, but it looks like this is the rare case when it can hurt. Really better to concentrate all efforts on granular engine.please don't add unnecessary features/fx like delay/reverb or such things
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- KVRAF
- 10157 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Is this referring to KTgranulator?Neon Breath wrote:Very different, and far more superior imo. Way more modulation possibilities, granular engine sounds better and smoother, up to 8 granulators, etc.rod_zero wrote:How does it compares to granulator?