KVR Audio

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:01 pm

pdxindy wrote:
incubus wrote:
Chris-S wrote:
incubus wrote:Holy bring the system to a halt batman!

Is there some way of this not being 50% cpu per instance?
Turn on multicore, turn off HQ.
edit: Still amazingly high
50% for what? one note with no unison? 5 notes with 3 voice unison?

With anything. It's worse with multicore on than lush is with multicore off

Sorry I took so long. Pretty much just gave up on it, all my computers performed the same.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:08 pm

So what are those computer configurations, which DAW(s)?

Bazille ticks away nicely over here, definitely not 50% of CPU per instance (i7-6700K at 4.4 GHz).

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:18 am

Just installed the linux Bazille demo, and the 'Lightness' demo presets,
and the total cpu with qtractor daw hosting Bazille, in multi-core/hq mode
stays under 20%, playing the sounds with more severe than normal-use,
on a 4-core 8-thread 3.4 ghz i7, power managed for maximum ghz.

No doubt there are a handful of cpu-hawg presets, but they are
icing on the cake, (assuming a competant sound designer)
and those are a priveledge to be able to use,
not necessarily a critique against Bazille.
Cup half full, and rising nicely!
Cheers

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:32 am

I was simply answering a question. If I try it on 3 i7's and it's terrible compared to anything else I own, that's all I can say.

Believe, or don't. But nothing was 20%. And, nothing personal, but it was more than a handful of presets.

Just to give an example, "Hive" almost doesn't even make the CPU meter move.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:19 am

incubus wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
50% for what? one note with no unison? 5 notes with 3 voice unison?
With anything. It's worse with multicore on than lush is with multicore off

Sorry I took so long. Pretty much just gave up on it, all my computers performed the same.

That is not usual behavior. I have a MBP so not particularly fast and 1 note is like 10%.

EDIT: What sample rate are you running at and what latency?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:29 am

incubus wrote:I was simply answering a question. If I try it on 3 i7's and it's terrible compared to anything else I own, that's all I can say.

Believe, or don't. But nothing was 20%. And, nothing personal, but it was more than a handful of presets.

Just to give an example, "Hive" almost doesn't even make the CPU meter move.

I believe you...

Bazille uses much more cpu than Hive does. It is the cost of being able to do tons of arbitrary audio rate modulations and have a very high quality sound. Hive cannot begin to do what Bazille can (nor should it).

One thing about Bazille... excluding effects, every presets uses pretty much the same amount of cpu. If stacking is used, then a 2 voice stacked preset playing one note will be the same as 2 notes of a stack of one.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:27 am

To my ear (and therefore to my opinion so take it with grain of salt) Bazille is best sounding synth to this date. Better then Zebra, Repro or any vanilia vendory synth out there. I am speaking about sheer amount of solidity to sound. There is something which is making it stand out of the everything else i ever tried. And i have pretty a lot of stuff on my computer.

Every serious amateur or producer should have one license in Bazille - Period

CPU is just fine on 2 year old i7. What kind of ancient computer people run it on - to whine here. I can run 4-5 instances just fine with a lot of room for everything else.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:32 am

kmonkey wrote:To my ear (and therefore to my opinion so take it with grain of salt) Bazille is best sounding synth to this date.

Among the U-He synths perhaps it is.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:35 am

Guys, PLEASE understand. It's not that I don't expect Hive to be less, it's that Bazille doesn't run well at all.

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said anything. I've tried and tried, and it's just too munchy.

I apologize for posting here, there isn't anything else I can add other than I gave up on it.

xalama qo · Post by **xalama qo** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:48 am

^^you just don't UNDERSTAND it man!

(sorry, couldn't resist!)

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:21 am

Anyone know why POV-Ray takes longer to load a picture than MSPaint ?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:34 am

Funny advertising slogan

"BAZILLE - it's just too MUNCHY!"

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:47 am

Sound tastes are so individual. Bazille is probably the only u-he synth that didn't impress me. Diva and RePro-1 though, those are golden.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:40 pm

You just don't UNDERSTAND it man

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:48 pm

izonin wrote:Sound tastes are so individual. Bazille is probably the only u-he synth that didn't impress me. Diva and RePro-1 though, those are golden.

That was my first reaction. It is buried somewhere at KVR when Bazille was released. I could not understand why people was so excited about it. Then i tried it for second time and it blew my mind and my ear - literally.

recursive one wrote:
Among the U-He synths perhaps it is.

Maybe i wasn't clear enough. No not among U-he (i have other U-he synths) - I'll repeat - out of all vanilia (vanilla whatever) synth vendors i have in MY arsenal (that is IL, Native Instruments Ultimate, Synapse, Rob Papen, U-he included etc.) - Bazille wins them all hands down no contest about it. It is so unreal it easily remind me to some sort of Hardware synth (i use this comparison rarely and lightly).

There is no any other softy synthy so good like this Bazille is. And to repeat : just my opinion. Take it with grain of salt.

Bazille - most misunderstood synth?