KVR Audio

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:54 pm

hope drag and drop works withough probs from FL Studio browser

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:02 pm

woodsdenis wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
msvs wrote:first granular video

One Word: Awesome

Question: Can I import my own samples for the granular engine?
Seeing as you can import your own samples into Avenger why couldn't you use the granular engine in it .

Just want to make sure. Don't like to assume things.

godly · Post by **godly** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:03 pm

msvs wrote:Avenger was built as a synth, not a sampler. I think you run better with Kontakt if you want to manager your entire multisample library. The majority of our users do not care about mass importing samples at all.
while sfz is on the list, it has absolutely no priority and (maybe) will never come. Sorry, but just want to be honest.

Thx for the honesty

Yes I know there are dedicated samplers out there.
But basic sfz import would make this synth so much more killer. At least for me, I'm looking for 1 allround synth to handle my studio and live stuff.
And as you promise in your publicity...
The last synth you'll ever need

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:15 pm

godly wrote:
msvs wrote:Avenger was built as a synth, not a sampler. I think you run better with Kontakt if you want to manager your entire multisample library. The majority of our users do not care about mass importing samples at all.
while sfz is on the list, it has absolutely no priority and (maybe) will never come. Sorry, but just want to be honest.
Thx for the honesty
Yes I know there are dedicated samplers out there.
But basic sfz import would make this synth so much more killer. At least for me, I'm looking for 1 allround synth to handle my studio and live stuff.
And as you promise in your publicity...
The last synth you'll ever need

It is the last synth you'll ever need.....but you may also need a sampler

A sampler with good synth engines like Halion 6 (which even samples live instruments) may do it for you -but be prepared for a learning curve!

godly · Post by **godly** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:21 pm

Haha Slic,
again, that's to much for the demand.
And yes I have some samplers, TX16w, basic but does the sfz. Only it doesn't have the synth capabilities like the beloved Avenger...

Simple sfz import fixes all the needs

A simple synth as Dimension Pro does it and I love it as allround musician.
(But again, that synth is useless, so that's why I bought Avenger in the first place)

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:31 pm

Question: Can I import my own samples for the granular engine?

of course! Forgot to show in the video, but you can just drag and drop your own samples into the granular area. Easy

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:44 pm

When can we expect the update top go live?

kokotte · Post by **kokotte** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:55 pm

come on men, importing multi samples in Avenger is an easy task, renaming samples is quick and importing is just one click. for me , no problem here, but duplicate osc without duplicate the modulation is sometimes more complicate to manage, it will be great to have a multi osc selection and assign, adjust what you want to the group, same with paralell fx, this could be a nice addition, for now, let's enjoy the granular engine!

everasia · Post by **everasia** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:49 pm

SLiC wrote:When can we expect the update top go live?

This.
You've teased us with the new great features,
Now what is missing is the release date!

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:07 pm

in few weeks from now. Sorry can not say a exact date for this. Its finished when its finished

Magnut · Post by **Magnut** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:16 pm

I'd say take your time. I could wait few weeks if I know it will be good tested in that time and the current presets will still sound the same (eventough they are not directly related to granular synthesis)

Unfortunately I read some customers had these problems after updating to some of the latest ones.

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:02 pm

tomorrow I'll post another video

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:38 pm

@godly
Granular is nice, but for a certain public.

I can see granular like colours/petals/boulders to scatter into loops, to sweeten, excite, or push the tune forward.

A time-consuming part of writing tunes is finding effects that do this "in a good way". So I'm hoping granular will be a big help here.

All looks very fascinating to me

(can't imagine anyone not wanting it)

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:38 am

msvs wrote:tomorrow I'll post another video

Please please introduce the ability to play back the sample from the position selected by the mouse INSIDE the waveform, and also simultaneously select the width of the playback by click and hold and sliding the mouse up and down. This will make it super easy and creative to be able to select exactly where you want to play from and the length. Using this visual method, rather than turning a dial or mod wheel will make granular synthesis playback much more intuitive, specific, creative and musical.

I hope this description of the control makes sense!

godly · Post by **godly** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:21 am

kokotte wrote:come on men, importing multi samples in Avenger is an easy task, renaming samples is quick and importing is just one click. for me , no problem here, but duplicate osc without duplicate the modulation is sometimes more complicate to manage, it will be great to have a multi osc selection and assign, adjust what you want to the group, same with paralell fx, this could be a nice addition, for now, let's enjoy the granular engine!

User experience is prior to extra functions imho.
Sfz is a really simple format, text based and gives just that extra usability to import multi sample formats and it's widly used. Large librairies are available.
Check it out, it's just that simple and I don't see a big problem with implementing it?
Are you guys so found of renaming your samples by every note before import?
http://www.sfzformat.com/index.php?title=Basic_sfz_file

Yes, I'd love to see to copy/paste osc's between presets also.

@godly
Granular is nice, but for a certain public.

I can see granular like colours/petals/boulders to scatter into loops, to sweeten, excite, or push the tune forward.

A time-consuming part of writing tunes is finding effects that do this "in a good way". So I'm hoping granular will be a big help here.

All looks very fascinating to me

(can't imagine anyone not wanting it)

Yes, now that I've seen the demo I'm excited also, this will give lot's of opportunities I see.

Here are some idea's for improvement:

- you cannot pedal sustain the drum part (would be handy for live play with the synth), maybe it would be good to have it standard for all drum presets, because drums are present in all of them? And disable the setting in the routing?

- import/export drum patterns (midi)

- select presets by arrows like in nexus would be great

- regarding cpu use: the presets are still quite heavy on my pc, would it be possible to have a cpu use breakdown table, where you can see what effect or osc is hungry? (like in reaper)

- is there a way to copy parts in between presets? Would be very handy.

- basic shortcuts as ctrl+Z, (undo/redo) ctrl+c, ...

- renaming the preset from the top name, does not work?

- and last but not least I keep asking for sfz import (with some basic sampling functionally as it has now, I have so many sfz and it would make use of them in many ways.

btw, I see that other major synths, like Falcon, Synthmaster, ... have also sfz import. It's pretty basic these days...

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