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[Atonal]

Hi Atonal,

This is very annoying because I just tried the same version on Windows XP and it did not crash. Did you use any VST plug-ins? Which was the previous version that did not crash?
Does this occur when you make a new composition, then quit?

I will upload an update for you tomorrow with an improvement that will hopefully fix this crash.

Thanks,
Attila

Attila,

Is this 'fix' still in the process of coming ?

Regards,

-- atonal

[musicdevelopments]

Hi Atonal,

I thought I sent you a PM on May 1st but it remained in my Outbox. I don't know why. I will try to resend it.
Please try the latest beta version, which I believe will work.

Thanks,
Attila

EDIT: I resent the PM but it was put in the Outbox again. Not sure what is happening.

[musicdevelopments]

Done.

Thanks, the files were helpful. It turned out that MIDI files that did not contain a valid tempo were ignored. This will be fixed in the next beta version. If there is no tempo, 120 BPM is assumed.

Thank you for reporting this issue!
Attila

[BlackWinny]

Hi Atonal,

I thought I sent you a PM on May 1st but it remained in my Outbox. I don't know why. I will try to resend it.
Please try the latest beta version, which I believe will work.

Thanks,
Attila

EDIT: I resent the PM but it was put in the Outbox again. Not sure what is happening.

It always means : "not yet read by the recipient". When at this state where it is still in the "Outbox" a message can still be edited by the sender.

The PM goes to the "Sent messages" as soon as the recipient has opened it, but not before. And at this state the message can't be edited anymore by the sender.

So all that work not quite exactly as emails.


And many people don't mention it (or don't know it) but we all have at the top right of our screens this envelope which becomes red when we have PM received and not yet read:

[musicdevelopments]

Thank you, BlackWinny for the explanation. I was not sure if it worked like that.

[BlackWinny]

Thank you, BlackWinny for the explanation. I was not sure if it worked like that.

[dsan@mail.com]

Hi Atonal,

I thought I sent you a PM on May 1st but it remained in my Outbox. I don't know why. I will try to resend it.
Please try the latest beta version, which I believe will work.

Thanks,
Attila

EDIT: I resent the PM but it was put in the Outbox again. Not sure what is happening.

Attila,
PM's remain in the Outbox until read by the recipient. This is normal.

The way PM's are handled by the KVR system could be better. Often people don't think to look at the notification icon and unless one has set-up to be notified by email.....well, it goes without saying.

HTH

Happy Musiking!
dsan

EDIT: Oh, sorry, I see BlackWinny explained it. Sorry for duplicating the post.

[Atonal]

Thanks everyone for resolving the PM mystery . . . Just when, at the age of 74, I thought I 'knew it all !!! ' (this is in direct conflict to when I thought I knew it all at the age of 23 )

Yes, I see the PM alert icon, and now I know why. I appreciate the help and patience ..

( .. the achievement of life is knowing what to do on Tuesdays .. )

-- atonal

[BlackWinny]

Thanks everyone for resolving the PM mystery . . . Just when, at the age of 74, I thought I 'knew it all !!! ' (this is in direct conflict to when I thought I knew it all at the age of 23 )

Yes, I see the PM alert icon, and now I know why. I appreciate the help and patience ..

( .. the achievement of life is knowing what to do on Tuesdays .. )

-- atonal

Hello Atonal

Music is Life. At all the ages, music accompanies the life, from the insect to the human across all the living nature. What would be Life without Music? Even the universe itself is music!

Have you ever heard the music generated by the oscillations of the surface of a star like our sun? It is very serious, it is a science called asteroseismology. Open this page, click "Sounds" on the left column, and listen to some very known stars (first of all our sun):
http://asteroseismology.org/
Turn a bit the volume up, because those are very low sounds.


We even know now in biology (I'm still a very active amateur astronomer, but biology was my profession) that those who are deaf since birth listen sometimes (several times each day if they are well aware) a sort of very soft music, even if it is a very simple kind of monophonic music a bit like a very soft theremin wave (they describe that as a kind of pleasurable soft modulation somewhere inside, close the internal parts of the ears) in their head, and when it occurs the EEG traces these moments in the area of the audition and in the areas of the pleasure, which proves that they really "hear" something enjoyable in their head. Of course it is impossible to say if there are mathematical rules in the frequencies, like a "scale". But it's not tinnitus, it is a real continuous electric activity of the neurons which is "translated" in a sort of pleasurable wave which appears suddenly and disappears several seconds or minutes later. It's not tinnitus because tinnitus, due to their nature, are always perceived as disordered sounds, and aggressive for the mind, at the total opposite of these "internal musics" in the head of the deaf people. So even the people who are deaf since birth are not totally exempted of Music.

Just when, at the age of 74, I thought I 'knew it all !!! '

Haha ! You remind me this marvelous song of a marvelous actor we had in France, Jean Gabin. In this song he said :

When I was a kid, tall as three apples,
I talked loudly for being a man
I said, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW

It was the beginning, it was the spring
But when I got my 18,
I said, I know, that is it. This time I KNOW.

And nowadays, in the days I look backward,
I look at the land where I indeed made the 100 steps
And I still don't know how it rotates!

Around 25 years old, I knew everything: love, roses, life, money
Hey yes, love! I had gone all around it!

And fortunately, like my buddies, I had not eaten all my bread
In the middle of my life, I still have learned.
What I learned, it takes in three, four words:

"The day that someone loves you, it is beautiful
I cannot say better, it's very beautiful! "

It still surprises me in this life,
I, who is in the autumn of my life.
We forget so many nights of sadness
But never a morning of tenderness!

All my youth, I wanted to say I KNOW
Nevertheless the more I searched, and then the less I knew

There are 60 shots that rang out at the clock
I am still at my window, I'm looking around and I'm wondering.

Now I KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE NEVER KNOW!

Life, love, money, friends and roses
You never know the sound or the color of the things
This is all I know! But THAT I KNOW IT!

Whether we want or not, whether we like it or not, we are lifelong learners. Even if you don't understand french, listen to his voice... A marvelous song... I really love it as I really love all the songs about lessons we learn throughout our lives :

[musicdevelopments]

Thanks everyone for resolving the PM mystery . . . Just when, at the age of 74, I thought I 'knew it all !!! ' (this is in direct conflict to when I thought I knew it all at the age of 23 )

Hi Atonal,
no problem at all! I am not a big fan of PMs. You can set "Notify me on new private messages" in the board preferences and you'll receive an e-mail when a message arrives.
I wasn't sure why my replies did not get to you and I am between 23 and 74

Attila

[Atonal]

Hi Atonal,

This is very annoying because I just tried the same version on Windows XP and it did not crash. Did you use any VST plug-ins? Which was the previous version that did not crash?
Does this occur when you make a new composition, then quit?

I will upload an update for you tomorrow with an improvement that will hopefully fix this crash.

Thanks,
Attila

Attila,

I have downloaded the beta 2.7b3, and unfortunately, I am getting the same behavior when exiting the application.

FYI ... if I do NOT create any changes, edits or additions, (i.e., just wander around the application) I obviously will not get any closing messages asking me " Composition Changed ... The Composition has been changed. Would you like to save the change ?"

HOWEVER, whenever I have taken ANY action that creates changes to the composition , I do get the above message ( obviously ) and then IF I respond NO, or choose NOT to initiate any changes to the composition, I get, UPON EXIT, the same application error message after exiting:

The instruction 0x1101bbcd referenced memory at 0x0000001 could not be 'read'.

One different behavior is that the computer now seems to NO LONGER HANG and get locked out ... it just throws up the application error message, then quietly goes away, patiently waits and sulks ...
So I am left with the random occurrence of using Rapid Composer as often as I like, as long as I don't do anything meaningful or real, but just wander around and observe.

I actually don't mind the random error message, as long as I can be confident that the resulting environment is 'non-destructive' or continuous . . . .

A 'clean exit option' (thru the file drop-down menu) may be a nice addition.

Regards,
-- atonal

[Atonal]

Continued 'lock-out' when exiting without saving:

Attila, I tried this same odd behavior on 2 additional (different) systems over the weekend ( this makes a total of 4 separate, different boxes which ALL exhibited the same error of locking me out when I attempt to exit without saving anything ... )

[ Windows XP ... SP3 ] Rapid Composer 2.63, and (2.7b3) . . . seems that Rapid Composer keeps demanding me to save something (anything ) and won't give me the option (choice ) of just exiting RC cleanly with NO save ( it even locks me out after I either expand or contract the phrase screen with +, or -, or / ... . . it just gets a bad attitude very easily.)

Observations:
There seems to be NO choice to cleanly exit if one chooses to without first saving 'something' ... In fact, the dedicated Microsoft system quick-key option for directly exiting a window (or application ) which is, and has been for years ' Alt - F4 ', now no longer will get me ungracefully out of the application and close the current active, focused window, (but instead, throws up the 'GLOBAL PHRASE ENVELOPE' visual horizontal guide . ? ....
Seems there may also be an error-logic (or at least a conflict) in the gate trigger for the user exiting Rapid Composer.

Regards,
-- atonal

[musicdevelopments]

Hi Atonal,

I haven't had the chance to look at this issue yet. It seems to affect Windows XP only. As a workaround please enable the following under Settings/Miscellaneous: "Auto Save&Open Last Edited Composition"
(These two settings will be separated soon.)
As a result your composition will always be saved when you quit, no questions asked. I'll try to fix this issue in the next few days.

Regards,
Attila

[Luigo]

Hi,
I'm experiencing a very broken up/glitchy sound when using RapidComposer.
I have updated to the latest edition, that is 2.64 (64 bit version).
My computer runs an Intel Core i7 processor at 3,40 GHz, 16 gb RAM and 64 bit Windows 8.

Also, when the program starts, I'm "greeted" with this very annoying beep.

I'm very new to this program, so please forgive me if I have missed something very basic.
RapidComposer looks awesome, but I'm finding it hard to use in the current state.

Thanks,
Luigo

[dsan@mail.com]

Hi Luigo,
This sounds like a buffer problem and is related to CPU usage.

1.) which sound card do you use?
2.) have you checked to make sure you are using the latest drivers for that card?
3.) are you using the ASIO drivers for your sound card or some other drivers?
4.) are you using the Soundfonts or a VST?
5.) Do you have WiFI on this computer?
6.) the beep sounds to me like you have Windows notification set to on.

Possible remedies:
1.) update your drivers if you have not already.
2.) adjust the buffer settings of your sound card if you are using the ASIO drivers for that card.
3.) If you are not using the ASIO drivers for that card, do so. It is generally best to use the ASIO drivers provided by the manufacturer. MMV.
4.) If the problem is caused by a VST, try a different VST to compare. Often a VST will cause drop outs if the CPU usage is high. (This coupled with incorrect buffer settings.)
5.) If you have WiFi you should disable it while running any audio software. This is a known issue on Windows computers for years and has yet to be addressed.
6.) When running an audio computer you should disable Windows sounds. There are many more tweaks you should do to optimize your system. Here is a good starting point. (Use at your own risk! If you do not know what you are doing with these - DON'T DO THEM!): http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/art ... windows-8/

Last but foremost - you will find this forum to be a fantastic group of people most willing to help out, led by a developer with the utmost willingness to help (Attila is THE greatest!). Please do not apologize and DO ask questions.

HTH

Happy Musiking!
dsan