Charlatan³ Free VA synth updated to v3.3.2 (Win/Linux)

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Jbravo wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:56 am If anyone is interested, I made a little demo video here with some custom presets 8)

Very nice, are these presets available anywhere?

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I like this synth a lot, but I really really miss a proper manual.
Do you know if there is some resource out there, at least explaining the basics?

Many thanks.

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colico wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:05 pm I like this synth a lot, but I really really miss a proper manual.
Do you know if there is some resource out there, at least explaining the basics?

Many thanks.
Did you read the QuickGuide that's included? It's basic but can get you started.

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brok landers wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:47 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:54 pm
brok landers wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:31 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:30 am
brok landers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:33 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:44 pm Perhaps a bug
When in linear mode , a single partial has overtones in the highest registers
Or is this intended to get more high freq. content with a limited amount of partials (16) ?
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Don't know if it is relevant (not in the studio right now. But turn off the filter - the saturation in the filterfeedback might cause this. Maybe it's that.
Doesn't matter if filters are on or not , otherwise it would also appear on the smooth settings.
Only happens in linear mode
Here's just one partial
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it doesn't do that here. see the pic. and charlatan is levelled to 0dbfs.

Charlatan sine linear mode.png
That's becuase you're spectrum meter has a limited amplitude range , it's set to -50 db min.

Here's studio one stock spectrum meter
I know these partials are nearly heard , but they do add up when using multiple ones , and you can even hear them when charalatan is set to 0 db
No biggy , but I just wonder wh
At first I thought he was using parabolic waves but the harmonics of a parabole are different
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That is true - no doubt. But it has to be said - if the reference level is at 0dbfs and the harmonics are as low as below -50dbfs - that is absolutely neglectable. Almost every analog synth has a noisefloor around that or higher. And even if not - It still wouldn't matter. I bet you wouldn't hear this if you wouldn't look at the analyser due to the masking effect of the 0dbfs sine. And i bet it wouldn't even bei audible when these harmonics shoot over nyquist and produce aliasing, as the aliased mirrored foldbacks into the audible frequency spectrum would be even lower in level compared to the original harmonics that shoot over nyquist.
So essentially there is no problem that actually matters - especially as it doesn't occur in smooth mode anyway.
The developer litereally said the harmonics are there to make the sound more clear , so yes they are audible otherwise they would fit no purpose at all .
I just wanted to make sure if it was intentional .
I don't know what monitoring system you have or your max hearing range but I for one can hear these verry clearly , not in your face clear but more as a slight buzzy overtone ( which is as explained intentional )
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Examigan wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:12 pm
colico wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:05 pm I like this synth a lot, but I really really miss a proper manual.
Do you know if there is some resource out there, at least explaining the basics?

Many thanks.
Did you read the QuickGuide that's included? It's basic but can get you started.
Yes, I did.
Far too basic for me.
Would love to have a proper manual explaining each part.
Many thanks for your answer :)

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I just uploaded a bank of 104 presets, labelled "Komosa bank" which you can find here:

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/charla ... /downloads

I hope you like (at least some of) them

8)
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Jbravo wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:51 am I just uploaded a bank of 104 presets, labelled "Komosa bank" which you can find here:

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/charla ... /downloads

I hope you like (at least some of) them

8)
Thank you very much! Greatly appreciate your generosity and excellent sounds!

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Jbravo wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:51 am I just uploaded a bank of 104 presets, labelled "Komosa bank" which you can find here:
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/charla ... /downloads
I hope you like (at least some of) them
8)
Nice, time to update. I update mine too from time to time. I think they're around 150 now. Sometimes I just update control over params from some presets.

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OK the new waveshaping thing when the ratio of the first OSC is 0.000 in v3.20 is giving me a lot of trouble on my AMD 5600 CPU. It seems to load correctly on an Intel one in my other computer but it instantly crashes my main PC with the AMD CPU when I recall the preset.

If I change the ratio at 0.001 everything is fine the moment I drop it to 0.000 there is an instant crash. I have attached the .preset in this message if it is any help.
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Last edited by phankiejankie303 on Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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phankiejankie303 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:35 am OK the new waveshaping thing when the ration of the first OSC is 0.000 in v3.20 is giving me a lot of trouble on my AMD 5600 CPU. It seems to load correctly on an Intel one in my other computer but it instantly crushes my main PC with the AMD CPU when I recall the preset.

If I change the ratio at 0.001 everything is fine the moment I drop it to 0.000 there is an instant crash. I have attached the .preset in this message if it is any help.
Thanks for reporting. Unfortunately, I have no access to an AMD machine so cannot reproduce it. That being said, I have some idea what could have been the cause. If you let me know which OS you're on, I will provide a test build with a potential fix.

It would be interesting to know if other AMD users have experienced similar problems.

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OS is Windows 11 and the DAW is Reaper.

Thanks for this awesome freeware synth and for the original Charlatan which is like my favorite digital synth ever!
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phankiejankie303 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:35 am OK the new waveshaping thing when the ration of the first OSC is 0.000 in v3.20 is giving me a lot of trouble on my AMD 5600 CPU. It seems to load correctly on an Intel one in my other computer but it instantly crushes my main PC with the AMD CPU when I recall the preset.

If I change the ratio at 0.001 everything is fine the moment I drop it to 0.000 there is an instant crash. I have attached the .preset in this message if it is any help.
I have an AMD R5 5600G with dedicated graphics (W10/24GbRAM/Studio One V5). Testing.
V 3.2 - Tryed on very different ways and there's no preformance difference between ratio set to 0.000 and 0.001

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wikter wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:14 pm V 3.2 - Tryed on very different ways and there's no preformance difference between ratio set to 0.000 and 0.001
Did you use the preset I uploaded or you used your own preset. Because in order the ratio 0.000 to do its thing you need to pick RM, PM or FM so that one OSC modulates the other.
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hi karrikuh,
just for your information - charlatan 3 (clap version) crashes studio one 7 here - reliably on instanciation. vst3 works good.
thought i might let you know.
regards,
brok landers
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brok landers wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:38 pm hi karrikuh,
just for your information - charlatan 3 (clap version) crashes studio one 7 here - reliably on instanciation. vst3 works good.
thought i might let you know.
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so do all the clap latest versions of the bkfx.
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

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