KVR Audio

Redmerkurii · Post by **Redmerkurii** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:51 am

spaceman wrote:Looks like you all just *want* to like this

Yeah well its got timestretch n SSL n flashing lights n shit. Man I think I got the horn.......maybe...../..oh well

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:52 am

bduffy wrote:Wow. Just watched the video. They really brought it! I wonder what the price will be for faithful Reason owners...

The suggested retail price for Record for Reason Owners is $149 USD / €129 EUR.

http://www.propellerheads.se/products/r ... rticle=buy

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:53 am

"Record for Reason Owners

Owners of Reason will be able to purchase Record at a discount. The suggested retail price for Record for Reason Owners is $149 USD / €129 EUR."

f**k yeah!!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:53 am

christianmusicmaker wrote:wonder why Propellerheads did not simply use the Internet Verification and leave it at that?!?!?

Because many (if not most) musicians prefer to keep their DAWS off the internet. That would require a permanently open connection (or that the very least you would have to connect if you wanted to open a project).

todd_r · Post by **todd_r** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:54 am

ericj23 wrote:...allows you to use audio to affect synth/fx parameters

Something which logic/cubase/sonar/reaper definitely do not have

You can do that with parameter modulation in Reaper

captain caveman · Post by **captain caveman** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:59 am

It's interesting to me that the effects are modelled on the SSL9000 and not an emulation of.

So the Gain/Q relationship in the EQ and Attack/Release/Threshold curve compressor characteristics of an SSL are put into a standard issue plugin eq and compressor.

You can't blame them after witnessing the Waves SSL gravy train get away with it and I've got to give respect to UAD and FXpansion for properly emulating the components in original devices for their actual emulations of real hardware.

blank/diod · Post by **blank/diod** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:03 am

headquest wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
ehdyn wrote:Seems most here are missing the point as to why this app is a big deal.
When Record "records" it performs a sophisticated FFT analysis that turns your audio into putty.

It is not simply simple recording.
The timestretching certainly looks interesting
If the video is *for real* then this is without a doubt the very best real-time timestretch I have ever heard. That will certainly be a big plus.

It's very much real.

The way it works is, there's a quick (realtime) algorithm always at work, so when you change to any tempo the audio stretches instantly. But after you've changed the tempo there's a little "Calc" progress bar on the transport panel that will show Record working on perfecting the timestretch behind the scenes, so it will sound even better after a few seconds. It's completely transparent to the user, no glitches or delays, it just switches to the perfected material when the calculation is complete. It does the calculations based on which algorithm you selected on the audio track (currently there are two -- Allround and Melody).

christianmusicmaker · Mon May 11, 2009 11:03 am

aMUSEd wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:wonder why Propellerheads did not simply use the Internet Verification and leave it at that?!?!?
Because many (if not most) musicians prefer to keep their DAWS off the internet. That would require a permanently open connection (or that the very least you would have to connect if you wanted to open a project).

I totally agree with a non internet setup for a studio = less hassle. But if you lose that dongle you will have to remain connected to the Internet to use Record (fully) anyway. I just wondered why if they just had to have something over and above a simple serial number (clearly the case) then why not just have a simple online reg (using another PC to get a key) and leave it at that

Some apps do not require you to use the same PC it's installed on to access the Internnet and download a key for it. I just thought that would be much better.

A USB dongle is of course not like hanging a PC off the side of a Laptop but with so many other easier ways to copy protect software it just seems (to be fair)a very well thought out process on the Props part (best USB attempt I have seen) but somewhat unecessary unless they really have serious issues with cracked copies of Reason and as a result lost sales.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:05 am

Will there be a discount for Reason owners?
And will it host VSTs?

Download SOphist · Post by **Download SOphist** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:07 am

it will host a special paradigm of VST that propellerhead will release five years from now. VSTs done right, 'ya know?

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:08 am

Download SOphist wrote:it will host a special paradigm of VST that propellerhead will release five years from now. VSTs done right, 'ya know?

You mean like ReWired n all

Redmerkurii · Post by **Redmerkurii** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:11 am

spaceman wrote:
Download SOphist wrote:it will host a special paradigm of VST that propellerhead will release five years from now. VSTs done right, 'ya know?
You mean like ReWired n all

nah like VST 5.3x sumfin cuz this is the foochur

Download SOphist · Post by **Download SOphist** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:13 am

Redmerkurii wrote:
spaceman wrote:
Download SOphist wrote:it will host a special paradigm of VST that propellerhead will release five years from now. VSTs done right, 'ya know?
You mean like ReWired n all
nah like VST 5.3x sumfin cuz this is the foochur

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:13 am

Well if was a Rewire host even that would be something.

5.1 · Post by **5.1** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:17 am

christianmusicmaker wrote:A USB dongle is of course not like hanging a PC off the side of a Laptop but with so many other easier ways to copy protect software it just seems (to be fair)a very well thought out process on the Props part (best USB attempt I have seen) but somewhat unecessary unless they really have serious issues with cracked copies of Reason and as a result lost sales.

I expect one of the reasons they've started using a dongle is because of the Line 6 plugins. It's no longer just Propellerhead IP in the program.

I hate Dongles, and I'm disappointed to find Propellerheads introducing them with this product, but I agree the ability to authorise via the Internet is a fairly reasonable way of keeping customers working while they're waiting for a replacement.

Record: New DAW from Propellerheads