XILS Roland Vocoder VP-330 Plus - NEW SYNTH

[Ingonator]

I just bought the bundle from Don't Crack so I have no complaints . I just thought the information was useful for understanding how the fidelity thing works.

Just thought about it myself. I had purchased 5 products (2 synths and 3 soundsets) directly at Xils Lab and got 25% fidelity discount currently. This could mean 5% for each product?


Ingo

[Frantz]

Just thought about it myself. I had purchased 5 products (2 synths and 3 soundsets) directly at Xils Lab and got 25% fidelity discount currently. This could mean 5% for each product?

No, it means you received a 25% discount on each product. </Math Police>

[Lotuzia]

Just thought about it myself. I had purchased 5 products (2 synths and 3 soundsets) directly at Xils Lab and got 25% fidelity discount currently. This could mean 5% for each product?

No, it means you received a 25% discount on each product. </Math Police>

I'm afraid for the Math police that Discounts are cumulative ! Like I said before fidelity discounts are based on the total of your purchases. Then this total is transformed in a percentage that you can use on whatever purchase you wish.

[ChiTown24]

As discussed earlier {and brought up by Kev}, there has only been one xils-lab coupon universally issued. which can be used once. there have been no others universally issued. Correct me if I am wrong Lotuzia or Xavier {but please, not Ingonator}.

so, while there may be some cumulative maths going on when that coupon was issued - perhaps even right up to the point that it is spent, but that's where customer loyalty discount ends. unless xils-lab are going to issue more {which matches the value or the previous one or builds on it} to those who've already spent theirs, now that there is a new product out.

this is why it is fundamentally different to Fabfilter {as Kev suggested} & PSPaudioware etc. Every time you buy a plugin, your discount rate goes up, and the discount is applied constantly to every new product that becomes available to buy. Which, in coupon terms, would be the same thing as issuing you a new one every time you spent the previous one.

[Frantz]

I'm afraid for the Math police that Discounts are cumulative ! Like I said before fidelity discounts are based on the total of your purchases. Then this total is transformed in a percentage that you can use on whatever purchase you wish.

Right. Just pointing out basic math:

.25*(a+b+c+d+e) = .25*a + .25*b + .25*c + .25*d + .25*e

"5% for each product" does not make sense.

(Why do I get involved in these threads?)

[Lotuzia]

As discussed earlier {and brought up by Kev}, there has only been one xils-lab coupon universally issued. which can be used once. there have been no others universally issued. Correct me if I am wrong Lotuzia or Xavier {but please, not Ingonator}.

so, while there may be some cumulative maths going on when that coupon was issued - perhaps even right up to the point that it is spent, but that's where customer loyalty discount ends. unless xils-lab are going to issue more {which matches the value or the previous one or builds on it} to those who've already spent theirs, now that there is a new product out.

this is why it is fundamentally different to Fabfilter {as Kev suggested} & PSPaudioware etc. Every time you buy a plugin, your discount rate goes up, and the discount is applied constantly to every new product that becomes available to buy. Which, in coupon terms, would be the same thing as issuing you a new one every time you spent the previous one.

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@Gosh

Hey! Thanks:) I didn't know that... My bad! Will check it out.

@Ingonator

Appreciate you checking to see if the coupon worked. Thanks!

@ChiTown

I wasn't being negative towards XILS just wanted to mention some alternatives being offered by other companies... A coupon also works for me:)
I think the company makes extremely good product (otherwise I wouldn't own almost everything) and think it's fantastic
that Lotuzia gives up a lot of his time to inform and help people here on GS.

Just checked my account and I receive a 15% discount... Not sooo bad.

Thanks Ingo for your help.

To Kelvin : Yes, some companies might have implemented different fidelity systems. A lot of companies have no system at all either. Most actually. Thanks for your kind comments.

[ChiTown24]

is there a reason you won't confirm what I'm saying ?

one universally issued coupon. that can be used once.
there has been no other coupon universally issued. just one.

true or false ?

[audientronic]

I'm afraid for the Math police that Discounts are cumulative ! Like I said before fidelity discounts are based on the total of your purchases. Then this total is transformed in a percentage that you can use on whatever purchase you wish.

Right. Just pointing out basic math:

.25*(a+b+c+d+e) = .25*a + .25*b + .25*c + .25*d + .25*e

"5% for each product" does not make sense.

(Why do I get involved in these threads?)

I think you read the problem wrong.

Ingonator is not saying he got 25 percent off the five he already purchased. He's saying he payed full price for each one, and his coupon towards a future purchase [perhaps] went up 5% with each purchase he made. He hasn't used the coupon yet so his coupon went 5, 10, 15, 20, and is now at 25%.

However, Lotuzia seems to be saying it is calculated based on how much overall you have spent... so it seems it's not calculated that way.

[Sequent]

Just wanted to mention the actual instrument really quickly...

VERY impressive indeed. I've heard other string ensemble type vst's (not counting for a moment anything that's sample-based) and while some of those are also very good (thinking of one in particular) what Xils has done that the others haven't (imo), is truly captured the warmth and analog nature of the original. While the other ones almost tend towards sounding too "precise" what Xavier has done is captured the really organic quality of these machines. This one feels like it's 'alive' for lack of a better word. Very, very nice!!!

Congratulations also to Yannick on the excellent gui work. He's really outdone himself on this one. You guys should really be proud of this one!

In terms of suggestions... with all the faders, I kind of wish I could just use my mouse wheel to adjust them when I float over a particular fader. Unless that functionality is already there and I'm just doing something wrong?

But overall, I like this instrument a LOT!

[Ingonator]

Just wanted to mention the actual instrument really quickly...

I am sorry that the thread was slightly derailed again (this time with discussions about discounts).

I hope the discussion will go back to the synth soon which is an awesome instrument indeed.
I was always a big fan of Synth Strings (i did them with any synth i got...) and Synth Choir sounds and this one does both very nicely.


Ingo

[ChiTown24]

there's something inherently dishonest about refusing to confirm a simple fact, while preferring instead to let someone like Ingonator confuse the issue. Which Lotuzia has done at least twice now {refusing to confirm a fact that could stop a line of discussion right in it's tracks.} in this thread across different by-topics.

but OK, the silence is confirmation enough, that there has only been ONE coupon issued {a few months/products ago} universally. That can be used ONCE. No further coupons have been issued in any official sense - to everyone who has already used that first coupon, though who can say what kind of discretionary coupons have been issued in private that perhaps, for some reason, Lotuzia might not like to talk about ?

So, going back to my original point that Ingonator simply confused with his unofficial, speculative input... there is only a once-off coupon that is in no way similar to the Fabfilter tiered loyalty discounts. You use it once, and that is it. At least officially. This is a query raised by Kevlyn {sp?}, we can put it to bed now if you like. Sure would have been put to bed quicker & simply if Lotuzia wasn't so...flexible, or in this case intentionally mute, with the facts.

[Ingonator]

there's something inherently dishonest about refusing to confirm a simple fact, while preferring instead to let someone like Ingonator confuse the issue. Which Lotuzia has done at least twice now {refusing to confirm a fact that could stop a line of discussion right in it's tracks.} in this thread across different by-topics.

but OK, the silence is confirmation enough, that there has only been ONE coupon issued {a few months/products ago} universally. That can be used ONCE. No further coupons have been issued in any official sense - to everyone who has already used that first coupon, though who can say what kind of discretionary coupons have been issued in private that perhaps, for some reason, Lotuzia might not like to talk about ?

So, going back to my original point that Ingonator simply confused with his unofficial, speculative input... there is only a once-off coupon that is in no way similar to the Fabfilter tiered loyalty discounts. You use it once, and that is it. At least officially. This is a query raised by Kevlyn {sp?}, we can put it to bed now if you like. Sure would have been put to bed quicker & simply if Lotuzia wasn't so...flexible, or in this case intentionally mute, with the facts.

My replies were concerning the fact that you could use existing coupon codes additionally for both the pre-order and the current introduction offer.
This was confirmed by both posts of some other users and my own experiment with the checkout procedure at the Xils Lab online shop.

Concerning the fact if the discount could be used only once or not i got no clue. As i mentioned my Xils Lab coupon is currently at 25% but i never used it so far. I got no clue what happens to future discounts if i use that one.


UPDATE:
Xavier just replied and explained the voucher system. The dongle-less demo seems to be corrected too now.


Ingo

[xavier]

Hi

First I'm currently uploaded a new version (1.0.1)
_ Fixes a crash with VST3 (mac/windows)
_ build correctly the Dongle free demo
_ Fixes the windows installer (doesn't display several time the same panel after click on the back/next button)
_ Fixes the VST3 installer for mac (provide the correct version )




These new version should be available within two hours, the download webpage will provide a new link( tag as "preview" for a while)

About Fidelity vouchers, the rules are quite simple, but need to be explained :
_ each time you purchase on our store, your total amount is increased.
_ This amount allows you a discount called "Fidelity voucher". the discount is calculated by 50€ steps (each step reached allows you 5% more, up to 30%). If you spent more than 300€, you get 30% discount.
_ When the voucher is used, the Total amount spent is reinitialized.

Maybe we should put these rules somewhere on our site.




Best regards
Xavier

[xavier]

Hi again,

Maybe some of you asked for a time limited demo and didn't receive anything.

If this is the case, just contact us, the email, sent automatically is sometime blocked by your email provider (as spam). We are working on this issue, but this could still happen.

Best regards
Xavier

[ChiTown24]

"_ When the voucher is used, the Total amount spent is reinitialized. "

Thanks Xavier. That wasn't so hard now, was it ?

"Maybe we should put these rules somewhere on our site. "

Yep, or maybe Lotuzia could brush up on them so that he's better able to confirm/deny simple queries. He should probably do that anyways, considering it's his job ?