‘someone's misery is someone's happiness’…there is a word for that… schadenfreude
The Germans make great DAWs and have a word for everything!
Happy New Year fellow Live and Bitwig users!
Live 12 or Bitwig 5.1
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
New Years resolution?
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 9145 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
I don't think this is what I meant. More like "someone's trash is someone's treasure" meaning. I meant we are different or the opposite with our experiencesSLiC wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:35 am ‘someone's misery is someone's happiness’…there is a word for that… schadenfreude
The Germans make great DAWs and have a word for everything!
Happy New Year fellow Live and Bitwig users!
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Perfect!EnGee wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:27 pmI don't think this is what I meant. More like "someone's trash is someone's treasure" meaning. I meant we are different or the opposite with our experiencesSLiC wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:35 am ‘someone's misery is someone's happiness’…there is a word for that… schadenfreude
The Germans make great DAWs and have a word for everything!
Happy New Year fellow Live and Bitwig users!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST 
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
You mean the ones that keeps on pulling out your wallet?
ABEFLGMOPPRRST
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- KVRAF
- 5066 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
No, these I got mostly under control... with certain fails though...liquidsound wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:10 pmYou mean the ones that keeps on pulling out your wallet?
I mean this silly fingers driving me always into endless and mostly pointless discussions...
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Trancit!!! Don’t worry. You must be true to yourself. Always!Trancit wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:51 pmNo, these I got mostly under control... with certain fails though...liquidsound wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:10 pmYou mean the ones that keeps on pulling out your wallet?
I mean this silly fingers driving me always into endless and mostly pointless discussions...
Anyway, enjoy your Bitwig adventure.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
^^^
The problem is that with Ableton Live out of the picture, the question is now Bitwig or FL Studio. If the cloud service doesn't start generating endless money, and the whole team doesn't switch to it, it will get a new mixer and playlist editor this year, with built-in pitch and timestretching and the ability to nest tracks infinitely.
The piano roll of it already has MIDI scripting capabilities, and there are already some pretty useful scripts available for it.
The problem is that with Ableton Live out of the picture, the question is now Bitwig or FL Studio. If the cloud service doesn't start generating endless money, and the whole team doesn't switch to it, it will get a new mixer and playlist editor this year, with built-in pitch and timestretching and the ability to nest tracks infinitely.
The piano roll of it already has MIDI scripting capabilities, and there are already some pretty useful scripts available for it.
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Bitwig doesn't even have standard comping yet, no Midi comping!a9k1tp wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:25 am I hope that Bitwig can devise a superior solution for MIDI editing compared to Ableton, much like they did with comping.
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 5066 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Before thinking of midi comping they should overhaul the entire Midi editor first... this is meanwhile the absolute weakest part of Bitwig... there Ableton is centuries ahead!
It needs first proper zoom/snap defaults for new clips (best user defineable), fix many graphical issues, needs scale highlighting (not only on the keys but the note grid) and fold to scale...
The folding view needs to be zoomable vertically...
I know many of you are looking at scale helpers/folding as "beginner only" toys but this is simply not true...
If you ever have shifted a bunch of notes (complete clip content) in the PR editor like a chord progression up or down but wanted to stay in the scale you know what I mean...
It´s logical that many notes when being shifted in pitch land out of the scale notes and putting them on the right key again afterwards is a huge PITA compared to how easy and fast it is with scale snapping... there is simply no comparison...
It´s not just for beginners that every other DAW out there has scale highlighting and snap to scale... it´s a huge huge workflow helper for everybody not just using generative note creation and especially in Ableton and Bitwig it´s not true that Snap to Scale would reduce the functionality of "borrowed" notes and working partly outside of the scale and therefore it wouldn´t be needed like some Youtubers are stating as excuse that Bitwig hasn´t got that feature...
As in both (I think when it comes Bitwig will follow the Ableton´s path) snap to scale is done via scale folding you are free to use whatever note in the normal view... so no drawback here while I understand the argument for the other DAWs where snap to scale is absolute...
The new scale awareness for plugins in Ableton is nice as well... there are many Bitwig devices which could benefit a lot of this...
These are all features you cannot easily replace by any plugin while actual note mangling like Ableton´s new transform and creation tools can easily be replaced by plugins with just the drawback that it isn´t visible in the PR editor...
So for my priority list the former features should come first before the PR tools...
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I agree with everything you said- and being able to see gridlines through clips!
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!