Spire Synthesizer

[Robmobius]

Hi,
Mac 64bit is available!
Site update tomorow.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/280 ... -0.9.5.dmg

That'll put a smile on mac users face
Spire has officialy entered territory Sylenth didn't have the bottle to go to.

Unfortunately, Spire is not even close to sounding as good as Sylenth.

I don't agree... I prefer Spire's sound as well as its sonic capability.

In fact, I sold Sylenth quite some time ago and don't regret it. Sylenth sounds good no doubt about it, but it's missing A LOT of features imo.

For me anyway, Spire comes closest to my Access Virus TI.

At the moment Spire and Zebra are my top 2 soft synths. I'd say my next purchase will be Diva. Each has their own sound and I like all three...

[zerocrossing]

Hi,
Mac 64bit is available!
Site update tomorow.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/280 ... -0.9.5.dmg

That'll put a smile on mac users face
Spire has officialy entered territory Sylenth didn't have the bottle to go to.

Unfortunately, Spire is not even close to sounding as good as Sylenth.

... I'd also say that it's even kind of weird to compare the two. Very different instruments. Can they both make trancy sounds... yeah, but so can many plug ins.

I passed on Spire though. I liked the sound and it's pretty easy to get around, but in the end I just spent $50 to update my copy of z3ta+ to v2. Sorry, other than the decimator effect that's pretty cool, there's not really much that is super exciting about Spire, at least at that price. Maybe if the developer had a crossgrade special or something.

[zvenx]

This may be a stupid question,
but can you turn OFF the individual effects or even oscillators or even filters or basically what you do is turn their (those that you aren't using in that specific patch) volume to zero but they (the components) are still there in the background processing stuff and adding to the cpu usage required by this synth?

I can honestly say this synth uses more processing power than any of my other synths. including Diva, Lush 101, Dcam Fusor which are all high cpu usage at my end.

rsp

[aquar]

This may be a stupid question,
but can you turn OFF the individual effects or even oscillator or even filter or basically what you do is turn their volume to zero but they are still there processing stuff and adding to the cpu usage required by this synth?

I can honestly say this synth uses more processing power than any of my other synths. including Diva, Lush 101, Dcam Fusor which are all high cpu usage at my end.

rsp

Oscillators have a on off switch.
Filters can be switched out from their pull down menu's.

The effect sections looks like they could do with an on/off.
That might save a few lines of code to check per effect every iteration.
I suppose with Spires current overhead even shaving a few mili seconds would help.

[zvenx]

thanks,
need to look back at it.
rsp

[zvenx]

This may be a stupid question,
but can you turn OFF the individual effects or even oscillator or even filter or basically what you do is turn their volume to zero but they are still there processing stuff and adding to the cpu usage required by this synth?

I can honestly say this synth uses more processing power than any of my other synths. including Diva, Lush 101, Dcam Fusor which are all high cpu usage at my end.

rsp

Oscillators have a on off switch.
Filters can be switched out from their pull down menu's.

The effect sections looks like they could do with an on/off.
That might save a few lines of code to check per effect every iteration.
I suppose with Spires current overhead even shaving a few mili seconds would help.

Found them, thanks.

should it be normal for their to be a cpu hit if all osc and filters are off?

I turned them off, out of curiosity so there was no sound but still there was a cpu hit if I play notes on my midi controller.

is this normal behaviour for a plugin?
rsp

[Igro]

Hi,
Mac 64bit is available!
Site update tomorow.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/280 ... -0.9.5.dmg

That'll put a smile on mac users face
Spire has officialy entered territory Sylenth didn't have the bottle to go to.

Unfortunately, Spire is not even close to sounding as good as Sylenth.

Unfortunately, Sylenth is not even close to versatility of Spire.

[Igro]

I suppose that depends on what the individual user expects from a Synth.
Sylenth to me doesn't sound very good at all until you dial in loads of reverb/delay and unison. Even then it sounds cheap to me.

Have to agree. It sounds so plastic and unnatural.

[dalor]

I suppose that depends on what the individual user expects from a Synth.
Sylenth to me doesn't sound very good at all until you dial in loads of reverb/delay and unison. Even then it sounds cheap to me.

+1. This works for every synth. Want to know how good a synth is? Turn off all effects first. Sometimes I think if a sound bank uses too many effects they try to disguise how average the synth would sound otherwise.

[Crackbaby]

I would assume that any programmer would make an effect turn off automatically and use zero cpu when mix is set to 0.

For what's triggering CPU when everything is off and you play notes..? Maybe envelopes are still triggering

[Crackbaby]

I suppose that depends on what the individual user expects from a Synth.
Sylenth to me doesn't sound very good at all until you dial in loads of reverb/delay and unison. Even then it sounds cheap to me.

+1. This works for every synth. Want to know how good a synth is? Turn off all effects first. Sometimes I think if a sound bank uses too many effects they try to disguise how average the synth would sound otherwise.

Ten years ago (or was it more?) when the first VA's came out, that was the general rule. Turn off the effects! My poor Nova really needed her effects But today a synth shouldn't need a ton of effects and unison to sound good

[Igro]

with Attack and Release set to zero, you get a really nasty audible click sound...that needs sorting out.

Agreed.
I think the developer is aware of that because the default Ini patch has a touch of attack and release.

I think too, the attack click is way too strong and must be fine tuned.

[C-note]

Hi,
Mac 64bit is available!
Site update tomorow.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/280 ... -0.9.5.dmg

That'll put a smile on mac users face
Spire has officialy entered territory Sylenth didn't have the bottle to go to.

Unfortunately, Spire is not even close to sounding as good as Sylenth.

Unfortunately, Sylenth is not even close to versatility of Spire.

Would rather have the sound. But maybe you could enlighten me as to this versatility, for example, where is the Arp/Seq/Step Seq? Couldn't find it in the manual or the plug. Spire's FX section is minimal and has no Distortion as far as I can tell. Sylenths's Distortion algo is excellent. Spire has four osc's, a couple filters, LFO's, Envs, and FX - so does Sylenth. Spire has a clean digital sound which is fine and it is easy to get some interesting sounds just tweaking around. It remains to be seen if Spire gets many sound designer devs programming for it.

[ukm]

If I buy a synth from Moog, DSI, u-he etc. I know who is behind the scene. In the case of Spire there is no information at the website. Why?

[Robmobius]

Spire's FX section is minimal and has no Distortion as far as I can tell. Sylenths's Distortion algo is excellent. Spire has four osc's, a couple filters, LFO's, Envs, and FX - so does Sylenth. Spire has a clean digital sound which is fine and it is easy to get some interesting sounds just tweaking around. It remains to be seen if Spire gets many sound designer devs programming for it.

Did you demo the product? Because it has several distortions types available in the FX section, and to my ears far better that Sylenth's.

While I liked Sylenth, I did feel that the quality of its FX overall were not that great.

Re. modulation, you can alter the wave shapes in way you cannot with sylenth (as well as a load more wave forms). As well as a ton of available modulation options in the mod matrix. It's actually quite deep with you start getting into the synth.

The Arp and Step section are coming soon (it says that in Spire's interface). Two features that I'm really looking forward too.